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  • jpomper jpomper Jun 19, 2011 5:27 AM Flag

    Value to Shareholders

    Well, let' take a look at it from another wievpoint.

    1)Include into the calculations the ING Insurance business.
    Insurance total Assets are 325B, from ING total assets of 1250B, this is 26%.

    Its share from Equity total of 46B is 20B, this is 43%.

    Insurance underlying result is 461m from the total ING undarlying result of 2150m, this is 21%.

    2) Take an average of the above numbers, and you get to the conclusion that ING Insurance Business is cca. 30% of the total value of ING.

    3)If ING Direct is worth $9B today, and it is cca. (9%, 15% average) 13% of ING total value,
    then a 30% share of ING should be valued at cca. $21B. So, by the present market transaction ING Insurance should be valued at cca. 21B.

    4)Now, add to ING banking Busines value (see previous post) of cca. $80B (since it is valued between $60 and $100B) the Insurance Business value of cca. $20B, you get a total ING value of $100B today.

    5) And you get for ING Direct only $9B?
    Looks like a bad deal.
    Or is it?

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    • Conclusion:

      1) If the current Stockmarket valuation of ING is right, then selling ING Direct for $9B was a reasonabley good deal, cca. 25% above the stockmarket value.

      2) If the price of $9B was right for ING Direct in this transaction (and the stockmarket valuation is wrong), and you calculate ING Total value from this,
      then you must conclude selling for $9B was a definitely bad deal.
      ING sold its crown jewel for cca. $4B less than it should have.

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