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  • discdriver discdriver Mar 12, 2013 5:57 PM Flag

    Hang On

    WU has great potential , has a lot of stored cash, a good dividend and leaders that are looking to expand its business. Add to it the real possibility that it is easily a buy out candidate at this price. My projection is $20 by years end.

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    • redheadinvestor Mar 13, 2013 1:37 PM Flag

      WU doesn't need an external buyout, so there is no false buyout "hope" to give up on. Due to its robust cash flow and discounted half-the-index multiple, it could take itself private through buybacks, gradually over time. WU is its own buyout. It doesn't have to get all the way to a full privatization to pop the stock. Reducing the share count will boost EPS and drive the stock upward (already happening).

      WU is in a rebuilding mode (while remaining strongly profitable and cash positive). Growth will resume because the payments space is growing and so much of it is black market, it's not a zero sum game.

      Who cares about five years ago? I bought all my WU after the crash. I need it to perform relative to 13, not 20. So far so very good. If you're a dumb hedgie and bought a year ago at 19, well, average down, I guess - not my problem. Buy before WU does. The downside protection (big cash, the big dog in the space, low multiple) and dividend here make waiting for blockbuster performance a no-brainer at these prices. Whether WU would be, or was, a buy at 20 is an academic question irrelevant to events at 14.50.

      Re: surprise to upside: That's not so improbable. Even 4Q12 beat, and the turnaround is in progress. Not only the numerator (earnings) matters, but the denominator (share count) matters.

    • cheating_stock_invester cheating_stock_invester Mar 13, 2013 12:18 AM Flag

      fyi, i gave up on the buyout potential, did you read the recent 8k they just mentioned that they are changing the bylaws and articles of inc, basically they made it difficult for any activist shareholder to take part of this opportunity. They made it so difficult to get on the board with all the newly added provisions. They will only go for a takeover on their own terms, which I think is a hefty premium.

      insiders want to keep their job and that's why they are protecting the company from being forced to be sold. frankly i think it is crazy if they were unable to grow marketshare for the past 10 years, they've always been at 18%, they are growing in line with the industry, not ahead of it. basically you can see the share price have lower 52 week highs each of the last 5 years.

    • your crazy, looking back , WU has not traded at the 20 level consistantly, since October 2008!
      almost 5 years ago.
      In 2011 it made it to 20 for 4 months, and that is it!
      It's been 21 months since it touched 20 ! (2011 (Feb-May))
      Would take a miracle for this to ever see that figure. Even a buyout is unlikely to produce that number.

      Not sure what you base your numbers on, other than wishful thinking!
      I am not sure what this company could possibly do to get this to 20!
      Probably not even possible senario at this time!
      Would need something very extrodinary! Like a serious surprise to the upside,
      Not going to happen...

      Be interesting to see a discussion of possible actions this company could take to get stock back to 20 level.
      This has been a non preformer for the last 5 years!
      Hopefully that changes, but do not plan on it!
      There needs to be some catalist, and that is not there.
      There is nothing different now, than there was 5 years ago,

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