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VMWare vs. Microsoft : Who will win the battle?
VMWare is a one trick pony. Microsoft is everything else. What Microsoft wants it gets. If this virtualization market is as important as VMWare makes it out to be. Then, it is a top project for Microsoft. Like, Explorer vs. Netscape, Microsoft will will this battle if it is financially worth fighting for. This won't be a Apple I-Tunes vs. Microsoft Zune. Microsoft has too much revenue and profits coming in from too many projects not to be able to crush this one operation (Several Operation and Strong when wholly owned by EMC) enterprise.
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Boy, what a blustery little fat man you are.
"What Microsoft wants it gets."
Uhhh... no. It's why they haven't been able to ship their own virtualization product Viridian and why Viridian is delayed again to 2008.
IF Microsoft could do what they need to do, they would have the Viridian product widely available. As it is they're hiding it in secret test versions so that tells me VMWare has a big head start and Microsoft is suffering succotash.
the real portuno
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VCSY will.
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=197018
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=VCSY&read=197019
Why? Because Microsoft can't ship Viridian because they would most likely infringe this patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsrchnum.htm&Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&r=1&l=50&f=G&d=PALL&s1=7076521.PN.&OS=PN/7076521&RS=PN/7076521
to get to the web with XML over http.
Why? Because both MSFT and VMWare have the same obstacles in that patent and this:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,826,744.PN.&OS=PN/6,826,744&RS=PN/6,826,744
who's saying so?
Me. The real portuno
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(for those of you intent on tossing these posts - the information I am presenting is relative to the industry VMWare is supposed to be "competing" with. Same with Microsoft. BUT, if you're so sensitive as to realize you're not really equipped to "compete", Toss away. There's a ton of it and the information is interesting to readers. So YOU are the one making readers uninformed and I'm sure they will want to know why.) -
completely agree...
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First of all MSFT is very late to the market. It takes a long time for their product to mature. VMware has been a player for at least 10 years and their a proven market leader.
Of course MS will get a share of sales, but what about MSN Live vs Google, Zune vs iPod, etc.
They lost every single battle recently. They are just too big and slow now, they lost a step.. just look at Vista adoption pace - their bread and butter.
I am an IT executive for a major financial company and we have a Virtualization strategy and MS is not even considered.- 1 Reply to moshennik
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Looks like all the pro-MSFT posters are in panic mode trying to knock the discussion down. HA
When you see that you know you're stomping on the Giant's toes.
the real portuno
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When you're a pissant company without an original product, microsoft is not a very pleasant competitor to have beathing down your neck. This love story is over. SELL while you can!!!
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So all of the companies that already purchased and implemented VMWare are just going to dump it now because MSFT came out with some shitty visualization software? This is nothing like IE vs Netscape at all. Nothing like Mac or Linux vs Windows. Nothing like Google or Yahoo vs MSFT. THis is a totally new battle and I think MSFT is going to come up short, mainly because so many companies have already implemented VMWare, and the companies who haven't yet are going to use what everyone else is using.
VMWare wins...- 1 Reply to pgzee
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Well said Pgzee, this battle is much much bigger and the giant sloth has lost and will soon be saying, et tu brute to the many companies that would love to have a piece of their action. Intel and CSCO have chosen sides, others will follow.
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Microsoft will successfully put a layer between server and software, which will funnel everything through Microsoft and VMWare outside the operating system completely. It won't be long until EMC starts seeing the writing on the wall and start to sell their stake in VMW.
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VMWare ESX server is already on the bare metal outside the operating system - it's based on a Linux kernel. This is the high-end product that Microsoft Viridian will compete with when it ships.
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I�m amazed @ how many of U
Never heard of Google, Yahoo or Apple
MSFT has money but no longer has talent or power
they've become 2 big 2 slow 2 cumbersome
no longer innovative they've become late 2 the party followers & losers- 3 Replies to v_v_verdi
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I agree. The battle is already over. Microsoft has been aware of VMware for years now. They use to utilize VMware in many of their demo datacenters and tossed them out long ago to use their own Virtualization product.
It's not like this is new technology, it's just getting a lot of buz and it is now more legit and proven in production environments.
The battle is already over and VMware is the clear winner and will not be displaced. The question is how much market share can MS take? They'll penetrate a bit in the SMB market, but with the projected virtualization growth, I doubt there will be very much hit on VMware's Market share for the next few years. Of course there will be some, but by no means will they overtake VMwars position. Especially with Intel and Cisco invested heavily in VMWare. Any new virtualization riding on their hardware will no doubt utilize VMware's technology first.
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what google and yahoo do is not msft's bread and butter. As for apple, it's new product lines (ipods/iphone/itunes) that are making them successful, i highly doubt they would be wehre they are now if they were only selling mac's.
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You mean how they're beating google or nintendo lol. Nintendo has been gone for years and they're taking it to microsoft. Dont give silly examples of microsoft and not look at the whole picture also. Microsoft's ppl are too slow and too arrogant to compete with vmw anytime soon on virtualization.
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Not to mention, they have already delayed their release. This is old news that they are going to be a competitor. MSFT may be a strong competitor, but in years past had a virtualization product, but ended up giving it away for free. VMWare was still the leader that had the better product that customers were still willing to pay for. THIS IS ALL OLD NEWS!
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I agree, this news of Microsoft entering into this field is extremely bad news for VMWARE. Microsoft is the bully and king of software.
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