Miserable stock, overestimated company and just basically a proven poor performer. At any sign of adversity, say hello low 60's.
Now below pre-earnings. That is a thumbs down from the street. RHT and CTXS obviously the better play if you want to make moneys. Imagine if VMW missed. This would be in the 50's. Sign of a #$%$ stock for sure.
RHT and CTXS were oversold (pigs as you say) and now you are praising them.
Miserable traders pigs, under-estimated the company and just basically proven poor holders. At any sign of triviality, say sell