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  • biggis_buckis_grabbis biggis_buckis_grabbis Nov 18, 2005 8:00 AM Flag

    Any hope for Hillary

    @BUFFALO, N.Y. A new poll shows former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani beating Senator Hillary Clinton in the 2008 presidential election. The nationwide poll was conducted by Canisius College. It surveyed 455 Americans over 18 Sunday through Tuesday. The poll showed the Republican former mayor beating the Democratic senator 54 to 38 percent in the battle.

    I think the nation is ready for her after seeing Bush.

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    • Mr. TM,

      >amplexus

      The fact that the word "amplexus" is in your brain, available for use in a sentence, is really scarey...

      "The I-Dot"

    • >> Say canned, everytime I see your moniker I think of "Going Up The Country",by Canned Heat.

      ==============

      Well you know, Mr GH, that's not too bad a thing. See, I *look* like that song most days. (Thanks, by the way, I never knew who sang that!)

    • >> Perfect, simply perfect...

      =============

      Thanks Mr. Dot,

      But it was easy. All I had to do was find a rather disgusting picture of slimy reptiles. (That, in itself, is sad commentary.)

    • Think "mating ball" <<

      Ah what a love fest:) Say canned, everytime I see your moniker I think of "Going Up The Country",by Canned Heat.

    • Mr. CW,

      >(Think "mating ball" http://tinyurl.com/cg5y3)

      Perfect, simply perfect...

      "The I-Dot"

    • >> The culture in the capital needs to change and Im not talking dem or repub.

      =================

      Right now it seems to be a big money grab for the f*ckers in power and those that put them there. Its like a big, fat, greasy orgy replete with bacon rinds, sweaty bodies, bad wine and processed cheese. (Think "mating ball" http://tinyurl.com/cg5y3)

    • This "Bridge to Nowhere" project has been demonized by the media and certain politicians as the epitome of pork barrel appropriations. However, there is another side to the story. The bridge was to link Ketchikan to Corvina island, where the local airport is. Now, it is served by ferries which run constantly through the day.

      I have just been there this summer. The town of Ketchikan is severely hemmed in by the narrows and the mountains. Yet, it is growing by leaps and bounds. Corvina Island is seen as a natural place for expansion. There is not much on Corvina now, except for the airport, but it would be a wonderful place for new residences and businesses, if it were accessible. It is not "a bridge to nowhere", it is a real piece of infrastructure.

      Personally, I oppose it, as do many in Ketchikan. Some for environmental and aesthetic reasons, and some for fiscal reasons. As usual, these are all trumped by the needs of real estate developers and other business interests.

      BTW, you say don't vote for the guy, but we in the rest of the USA don't have that choice. Rep. Stevens is the Alaska rep, and he is bringing projects to Alaska. He's also trying hard for AWAR drilling. I'd be glad to vote him out, but he is not MY representative.

      The bridge is a poster child, but the recent transportation bill is awash with similar pork barrel "earmark" projects. The Republicans control the whole government. I guess this proves they cannnot be fiscally responsible, regardless of election year rhetoric.

      The bridge was just killed, or at least "un-earmarked". We are still giving the money to the Alaska Transportation dept, they just don't have to spend it on the bridge. Politically, this takes the pressure off the rest of the pork barrel projects, and lets the current government continue to spend us into the ground while reducing taxes at the same time.

    • I am not sure I agree with everything you have written but these bridges to nowhere in alaska really bother me. The culture in the capital needs to change and Im not talking dem or repub. The elected guys need to be better custodians of our money, and they should be villified if and when they put thIs expensive junk into the budgets. How do we make these guys accountable, if we say its at election time well I dont vot for this guy in alaska that wants these bridges or the guy in montana that wants the mountain bike trails.

    • >> Please note the post where you made the distinction clearly as I could have missed it.
      <<
      Here's what I said:
      "So let's cut the pork! I think I read recently where they want to build a bridge to nowhere up in Alaska. Also, let's cut foreign aid. Until we can take care of our own, we shouldn't be writing checks to other countries. Finally, snap the borders shut with that fence. I'm sick of paying welfare to "illegal" immigrants. Legal immigrants- fine. Illegals? No way."

      That's where I made the distinction between pork, foreign aid and immigration.

      >>Stop foreign aid and as an analogy, you have exactly the same result as the billionaire refusing to give to charity or his community - he would be within his rights - but would he want to live inside DC and what would he have to do to survive there?<<

      All I can really say to that analogy is that we aren't a billionaire if we're in debt up to our eyeballs. Other countries may perceive us as such, but it just ain't so.


      >>Airbus is increasingly causing angst to Boeing in the commerical aircraft market (and it is technology and simple common sense in design, not just government support-both companies get government support just in different ways).<<

      Boeing just sold a slew of planes to China and outsold airbus for the first time in quite a few years. That's one small speck of good news.

      I heard your other points as well, I just don't have any comment on them. If I did, this post would bore everyone, including myself.

      huff~

    • > Biggis- I clearly stated that pork was in a separate category from foreign aid and welfare to illegal immigrants.

      If you think you did that clearly, I could not find that characteristic in a perusal of your posts. It was indeed inferred. Please note the post where you made the distinction clearly as I could have missed it.

      Other than that, we disagree on foreign aid anyway. Stop foreign aid and as an analogy, you have exactly the same result as the billionaire refusing to give to charity or his community - he would be within his rights - but would he want to live inside DC and what would he have to do to survive there? Such is the world.

      A bit of a tangent to foreign aid, I for one would stop starting/fighting unnecessary wars, tweaking the noses of other countries just to ensure we have more serious global enemies than necessary (and hence always be able to justify more and better WMD of our own), and spend some money revitalizing the hills of west virginina and other such poverty belts.

      Examples- with the money we sink into weapons instead of "commerical or peaceful stuff" it is amazing GM/Ford/(old)Chrysler cannot compete with Toyota in quality. Airbus is increasingly causing angst to Boeing in the commerical aircraft market (and it is technology and simple common sense in design, not just government support-both companies get government support just in different ways).

      Consider Australia's national lab, CSIRO. Lots of brilliant discoveries and no weapons research. It can be done! You might argue Australia depends on us for weapons - they do, or to the UK, France or Germany (we are their preferred vendor -- the Aussie PM is known as bonzai - a little bush with his head up George --- calm down Mo, don't get so excited with that image!).....

      Summary, our funded priorities are developing, and creating a global environment to enable selling, WMD; not commerical technologies and products. That is one of the major reasons we are where we are, how we are, today.

      YMMV

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