S0 now I know. QUANTUON owns no shares of ORI. Says what he says so the stock will go down. If he does anything, he probably SHORTS ORI. So I hope everyone on this MESSAGE BOARD reads this and understand what QUANTUON is. He is not your friend. He is not trying to help you with unbiased information. If you are an INVESTOR, QUANTUON wants you to lose money on your investment. Nothing he says is benefitting you. He is sending the message that ORI needs to be SHORTED. And believe me on this, the BIG BOYS, the Investment Houses that own large BLOCKS of ORI read this and it effects the VALUE OF YOUR investment. All QUANTUON is doing is causing you to lose money. So, keep this in mind when you read what he says. By the way, I do own more than 10,000 shares of ORI and have for more than 20 years. I am an INVESTOR in ORI and am happy to be one. I park money in ORI because where else can you get 8% on you money. I buy and sell my position as the price goes up and down. I like the dividend. Yes, I even like Al. I have met him and talked to him. I trust him. I know he is doing the best he can to run his company well . I know he is concerned about me as LARGE SHAREHOLDER and he really wants to keep paying that dividend. He likes continuing the 40 year success of continuing to pay THAT DIVIDEND. So, please, everyone on this MESSAGE BOARD keep this in mind when you read what QUANTUON SAYS. HE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. He is against you if you are an INVESTOR.