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  • noon_runner noon_runner Mar 27, 2011 2:16 AM Flag

    the reactor has fully melted dow

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake


    but it's about PR, the japaness have not lied or made any mistakes, why did the news stop the news aout japan last week. becuase the truth might scare the hell out of the world financial markets, HINT: in a few days when thje news gets real bad, how many of you will be stunned...............

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    • i dont understand why they dont bury them. well, other than they want to save face to the death or they cant program their vcr either. something feels really stupid here.

    • Your story doesn't support the fully melted down scenario. But it sure doesn't sound recoverable in any way only containable. One wonders if the whole vessel could be filled with lead shot or boric acid solution and enclosed in a new concrete containment structure indefinitely. Maybe someday the fuel could be removed and reprocessed.

      I'm surprised not to read about robots or, better yet, machines giving a remote operator virtual presence going into the high radiation areas in the disaster. Japan is very advanced in that area and should be able to do it.

      The reactor is so old that CAD files (computer aided design) or simulations probably don't exist for it. IMO, just for that reason perhaps it shouldn't be operating.

      Here in California it turned out in a recent story that local engineers had made a small change in a reactor that meant that one of the backup systems wouldn't work. Local engineers should not be able to make changes at all without going through a central point. Simulation would have shown up the problem immediately. All the reactors of the same type should be synchronized so a trained crew can just walk in and run it as they do in France.

      US nuclear power around the time of the Three Mile Island plant troubles were inspected and, as I recall, the inspectors went in one plant and found the operators asleep like the Washington airport control tower guy recently. There is no more of that; the companies have had quite a good record for some time now. The trouble with old reactors, though, is that they demand perfection that people find hard to provide. But even solar power projects in the desert will be going through the usual 10-12 year process including endless court suits. Today I think it would take a decade to put a flower pot of pansies on city hall steps - as the administration found there are no shovel-ready projects. Nimby's and environmentalists have become the new, narrower Conservatives as the Republicans have moved on to be Confederates.

      From politics here we end up having to maintain older, less safe, less efficient physical plant with an expanding population - the worst combination. Activists are not going to succeed in shrinking the population. In this area we have an old, large, oil refinery very close to a large, active fault in the East Bay. The refineries in Japan burned and garbaged up the landscape enough that the effect on cancer rates and ecological damage seems likely to exceed the damage from the power plant. The one in the East Bay shouldn't be there but where could it go? There have been no refineries built in the US in decades. NIMBY. But people know that no refinery would make their lives much more expensive rather quickly.

    • how will that affect f stock

 
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