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  • vikkitrader vikkitrader Jan 19, 2014 6:08 PM Flag

    Question for the Global Warming Skeptics

    Help me understand the logic.
    1. Do you accept the findings that the global temps have increased over 1 degree F over the last 80 years?
    If no, why not?
    If yes, go to 2.
    2. Do you accept the findings that the increased global temps are most likely caused by CO2 emissions?
    If no, why not?
    If yes, go to 3.
    3. Do you accept the consensus that the global temps will continue to rise as CO2 emissions increase?
    If no, why not?
    If yes, go to 4.
    4. Do you believe action should be taken to address this increase? If so, what?

    You can make it a drinking game with shots, or strip global warming questions, if you need that to motivate you fellas - I'm just really curious as to why!!

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    • Questions for you Vikkitrader:
      Help me understand the logic.
      1. Do you accept the findings that the global temps have increased over 1 degree F over the last 80 years?
      If so, why?
      If yes, go to 2.
      2. Do you accept the findings that the increased global temps are most likely caused by CO2 emissions?
      If so, why?
      If yes, go to 3.
      3. Do you accept the consensus that the global temps will continue to rise as CO2 emissions increase?
      If so, why?
      If yes, go to 4.
      4. Do you believe action should be taken to address this increase? If so, what?

      I'm just really curious as to why!! Through environmental/climate study of the past, there have been acute periods of climate change (ice age and return from ice age) with human populations so low as to have negligible impact on these drastic; changes. Furthermore, many people are making money trying to convince the public that the sky is falling, with their climate change conclusions. And that's why so many are skeptical. And, just as a reminder to you, you know that scientific truth/theories revamp themselves every couple of decades, so why do you put so much faith in the scientific community who relies on convincing the public of 'global warming from overpopulation and it's consequences', while the same scientific community relies on public funding too keep their power?

      • 2 Replies to germantownes
      • I don't "believe" or "not believe" anything on the subject. That's irrelevant and childish, because it's not a matter of personal opinion. I just try to understand the science and decide, for myself, what is most likely.

        There is 100% scientific consensus that the average surface and atmospheric temperature of the earth has risen about 1.4 degrees F over the last 100 years. If anyone denies this basic fact, they are simply ignorant.

        There is about 90-95% scientific consensus that the rise in temperatures is caused by the increase in carbon dioxide and methane. A minority of scientists question any definitive conclusions.

        Most scientists also accept that the temperatures will rise higher in correlation to continued increases in CO2.

        I accept the science, and "believe" it, if you want to use that word. I have not seen any credible alternate explanation.

        This does not mean many "global warming activists" are not complete goofballs. But science and personalities/politics can be separated.

        As a litmus test, anyone I meet who denies that temperatures have risen are immediately placed in the "dumb" category by me. Ignorance of the rest is forgivable, imo.

        Thanks for playing!!

      • On the issue of global warming, the scientific community is not a reliable source. They are biased because they are dependent on selling their fears in order to keep their government money coming in. Whenever the scientific community becomes biased and wants a certain outcome, then it can no longer make objective studies. And, how many scientists, government employees, manufacturers, and investors are dependent on selling their ideas to the public, in order to keep their positions/power/influence?

    • Nobody gives a rat's axe about global warming. Look at all the vehicles on the road. Oh, sure, everyone likes to say that they support the green movement. But the fact Is almost no one does. It's a lot like Americans supporting their troops. The furthest most go is to buy a bumper sticker: 'We Support Our Troops!' and then it's out of sight and out of mind. So I reiterate, nobody cares about your global warming.

      BTW, how many vehicles do you and your family own and drive? Do you enjoy your AC in the summer and your furnace in the winter? I sure do!

      • 1 Reply to philesposito31
      • ok Phil, let's get the facts straight, shall we? North America is now experiencing an unpredented warming effect. It is crazy warm out there.

        Also, I have a lot of readers and followers from Yahoo message boards and Seeking Alpha. I am very very well known and reputable. To take exception with my posts is not in your best interests. I have very powerful allies.

        germantownes is already on my list. That is not a good list to be on. He is dumb. You are dumb. You are all childish and irrelevant just like I said.

        If only I had been around several thousand years ago, I could have reversed nature and counter acted global warming that caused the ice age to end and the glaciers to receed.

        Get this straight too. I drive a bicycle with 3 wheels and a large basket in front for my fruit. I use a hand fan in the summer. I burn smokeless wood in the winter. I don't shave my armpits. I am a nature girl. No need for paper products to absorb my body wastes. I am born free.


    • each new year will be a nightmare for the global warming idiots. We are in a 10 year cooling cycle now.
      The one thing the global warming jerks can't control is reality and the future and its going to get mighty cold for them over the next decade

      • 1 Reply to allgamachee303
      • Actually, weather data for 2013 was released yesterday. Methinks you've got your info. backwards. Here's the facts:

        "The year 2013 tied with 2003 as the fourth warmest on record, according to a new report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NASA, which uses a slightly different method for calculating global temperature, ranks 2013 as the seventh-warmest year since 1880, tied with 2009 and 2006.

        Last year was the 37th in a row in which global temperatures were higher than the 20 th century average, scientists said, and nine of the 10 warmest years on record all occurred in the 21 st century.
        Australia sweated through its hottest year on record, going back 104 years, the NOAA report said.

        Last year also brought the worst drought in 30 years to Botswana and Namibia in southern Africa, NOAA said.

        Most of the planet's land and ocean areas were warmer than average, or broke heat records in 2013, scientists said. Only the central United States was cooler than average.

        "No region of the globe was record cold during 2013," the NOAA analysis said.

        Last week, climate scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric research in Boulder, Colo., released data showing Arctic freezes weren't lasting as long as they used to.

        A vast majority of the world's climate scientists said the planet's temperature was rising because gases released by the burning of fossil fuels are trapping heat in Earth's atmosphere, creating a greenhouse effect."

        HA HA - I'm right again.


    • On the flipside, renewable energies will bring additional structural unemployment (yay we're screwed)...but yeah it's better for the environment.

      Sentiment: Hold

    • Another great example of scientific 'truth' bites the dust. For the past four decades, black holes have been accepted by the scientific community as more than theory, they have proven that black holes are a 'truth' of the universe. And they have proven their theories to be truth. And now this bad news from the scientist who theorized black holes and helped prove their existence:

      Stephen Hawking helped develop current theories on black holes—but now, one day ago, he's saying there aren't any.

      Google 'Hawking says there are no black holes'

    • Yes there is a warming (at times) and a cooling (at times) that man and animal and plants and machinery and GOD have an effect on. It rises and falls like the tides of the ocean. If I clean up my yard of weeds and my neighbors do not and their pollen infects my yard, I go out and respray to remove the weeds again and it goes around and around and around. Politicians are pushing their agenda to INCREASE the pockets full of cash and power over all mankind - so what else is new.

    • There are more factors than CO2. You seem pretty presumptuous to know only what god, if there is one, knows for sure. There is also the inconvenient fact that many of the scientists that promoted global warming are now coming out of the closet and saying they are not so sure anymore and that their data is incorrect. But scientists are often wrong. If you didn't play drinking games so much you would know that.

      • 3 Replies to nomorehomes
      • Actually, scientific consensus has tightened. There's less and less doubt about the data. Figuring out the exact consequences is hard, because the global climate is such a complex system. Nonetheless, absent offsetting factors, increasing the carbon-dioxide concentration in the atmosphere has to raise the average global temperature. That's just the physics of it all. Over geologic time periods, global temperature tracks CO2 concentration very closely, and it has long been known that if not for the greenhouse effect Earth would be a snowball. Would be best not to go zinging off too far in the other direction, though.

      • defilip1 Feb 10, 2014 1:28 PM Flag

        I believe cigarettes are causing global warming. Oh and the spitting of chewing "tabakee". How's that for a hypothesis? Prove me wrong. LOL

      • This issue is identical to the cigarettes-cause-cancer deniers in the 1970s and 1980s. They were paid by big tobacco. Today's deniers are paid by big coal and oil. Except they already lost the debate. The news has not trickled down to the lowest IQ levels yet. Which is why I gave you the news. You get a F tho for being stupid.

        Wise up and maybe you won't embarrass yourself again.

        This matter is closed, as far as I'm concerned.

    • How come I'm freezing now? Turned thermostat up and up , still cold. I can't take it !!! Bring on global warming where ever you are !!

    • agree that temps have risen 1 degree over 80 years but scientific evidence shows that temps have decreased 2.78 degrees over the last 200 years.

    • We're headed for another ice age due to the fact that the North polar ice caps have melted considerably and have desalinated the North Atlantic/Pacific. It's no longer global warming, but climate change and it has NOTHING to do with CO2. The last ice age was 10,000 years ago BEFORE we had fossil fuel!!! This is evidenced by the fact that Georgia and Alabama had major ice storms just this week.

      Global warming is passe. Not even its avid supporters call it global warming anymore; not even Obummer in his SOTU address...

      It is now climate change!!! Good luck with your misguided spoon-fed liberal agenda. Old/false news!

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