How much time is spent with employees trying to
discover the next way management is going to screw them?
The latest I have discovered is that management has
changed the company peer group used for executive
compensation because they cannot measure up to the Exxons,
BPs, etc. Except the employees' bonuses via PIP still
uses the old peer group plus a couple of new ones. Why
are they different? Did they think noone would
Oh, you remember PIP. "Not going to affect merit
raises" Opps, those are now gone. You remember the lump
sum payment instead of raises, "The worst decision I
every supported", said Wayne Allen. Now, PIP has a
merit lump sums. I would bet money that P's raises this
year are < 3% and the so-called PIP merit portion
will go to the biggest suckups or be dolled out to
everyone as another lump sum. PIP is just a big game
anyway. Who can budget and negotiate when the budget is
not met. Big joke!
Did everyone realize they
got a pay decrease this year of about 3%? Yep! LTSSP
has just decreased allocations and there is no plan
to makeup that benefit decrease. When asked about
it, the only answer was "Oh, the UDS deal will reduce
employees by 1/3 so the LTSSP allocations will balance
out." First, planning to make up for a benefit decrease
by laying off employees is a poor answer. Second,
the UDS deal fell through so what is the answer now?
Third, Mulva wanted to take away the LTSSP that would
have gone to the employees as a result of the UDS
deal. Screwed coming and screwed going.
you ask about employees having too much time on their
hands, I reply, you get what you pay for.
way, I look at the msg board and post either at lunch
time or on my own time.
Broken engagement seldom leads to marriage.
There're too much bad blood. Normally, to rekindle the
talks, a change of top management in either party is a
pre-requisite. Without the change, a hostile takeover could
emerge - however, P has better fish to catch elsewhere.
PPCo and Ultramar are back at it. New talks
ongoing to clean up the mess they left in March. The JV
between the two companies could be back on track. This is
coming from outside the company.
Anyone able to
Both of you have valid points to consider. SAP is
our worst nightmare, but in time will prove to have
been a good decision on our part. As both of you know
changes, esp radical changes, take time implement and a
ton of time for the common worker to accept. After
all it is easy to find fault, people want to hear the
bad news, not the good, and it is definately more fun
to pick fights than to agree with someones
Having said all this, I think both of you are rather
childish and imature, sullen, introverts, hiding behind
your pcs, cowering in your office. Grow up gentlemen
and exhibit a little professionalism. (Really I don't
care what you do, as it rather entertaining
eom (end of message Susan Not ED O. McNills)
I could not care less about SAP as it is not part
of my job description but I have not heard alot of
people running joyfully down the halls of PPCo singing
great praises of SAP.
Trash in- Trash out can
start with the program not just the information put
People are opportunist, see a place
to make money and they will go where the bucks are
doesn't make SAP the greatest thing since spilt
Must be a vender or an die hard supporter of SAP with
their neck stuck out there hoping that things will pull
out in the end. I hope it is the salvation that it is
supposed to be, otherwise another waste of money of me too