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  • e11ndofwar e11ndofwar Aug 19, 2012 12:31 PM Flag

    Hey fancy

    Very impressive. Elk hunting. You sit out there, up wind, with your high powered rifle, and your high powered scope and you waite till an elk comes along. What is he, 200 yards away. You waite till he stops and bends over to eat. Then you shoot. What a fair fight that was !!! lmao. And you guys call that a sport. Shooting a defenseless animal who's a football field away.
    regards endo

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    • As I have said, it's the Derms that are using it and their obvious excitement with it that counts

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      DERMS JUMPING UP AND DOWN

      The melafind is here!!

      The melafind is here!!

    • They post EVERYTHING about them but their stool samples

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      One is long, skinny, bloated. The other is thicker with grey fleshy strips.

      I recall Crafan's greatest subject line ie: Barrons stools.....He started the thread with "Is this stool taken?" HAAAAAA!LOL!!!HAA!!

      man, JDBarron- The greatest ever!

    • Mela will be at 10 before year end.

    • <<LOL. I love how capt says both Fncy and Verm are anonymous. If you ever read this board along with Mo, Cree, Sgmo, CRA, ISRG etc etc etc......its like a CIA profile what people post about them. Way too obsessive. Cousin Giada has LESS stalkers.>>

      Appreciate the board info broke, couple here I didn't know about. Be seeing you! 8)

    • sandale111@bellsouth.net sandale111 Aug 20, 2012 12:03 PM Flag

      <<it's the Derms that are using it and their obvious excitement with >>

      As far as I know, most of ther derms using it have not said anything posituve publicly.

      You have 3 or 4 saying positive stuff publicly--and most of those are not people I would go to-- yet way more than that have been using it.

      I'm sure we can finfd 3 or 4 Americans who like the Socialist Workers Pasrty. Does that mean the Socialist Workers Party is wildly popular among Amerricans?

    • sandale111@bellsouth.net sandale111 Aug 20, 2012 12:00 PM Flag

      <<You still have no answer on how Melafind found four melanomas that would have been missed with only thirty units placed in the field>

      We don'teven know this occurred. They may have been moles that the Toy FOUND--moles that would have been found anyway. And if they were found that otherwise would not be, they were probably small and not yet in a stage where they were cancerous enough to display the obvious pttern. Finding such moles would not affect mortality.

      How about trying to get me the details.

    • not a few anonymous paid bashers on a Yahoo MB

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      LOL. I love how capt says both Fncy and Verm are anonymous. If you ever read this board along with Mo, Cree, Sgmo, CRA, ISRG etc etc etc......its like a CIA profile what people post about them. Way too obsessive. Cousin Giada has LESS stalkers.

      They post EVERYTHING about them but their stool samples yet Capt claims Fncy and verm are "anonymous". LOL! HAA!!!LOL!

    • VERm-Using an online arc tan calculator we get approx 0.07 degrees.

      To get an exact answer for the possible vertical error would be more complicated. One would need to calculate the angle to hit the bottom of the animal, then calculate the angle to hit the top of the animal, and then subtract. Each of these angles needs to take into account gravity causing the bullet to deviate downwards and air resistance. It can pretty much be done in a straightforward way, except one of the air resistance terms would need to be ignored because it would likely make the problem not be doable by hand and a computer simulation would be needed. (The air resistance for contains a term proportional to gthe velocity plus a term proportional to velocity squared--that second term makes it not calculatable easily by hand). That term would likely be small anyway--rifle bullets go through things much more dense than air without suffering large resistance. -- verm/army

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      Thanks, guys.

      As soon as I posted the "inches" part I knew that this was the wrong term but, I also knew that you would figure it out.

      So, at a (relatively very close) range of 200 yards, I would have to stand or kneel, holding a nearly five foot long, heavy weapon (which I most likely have hiked miles with through rugged terraine) parallel to my upper body and ensure that I pull a four pound resistance trigger (its a lot harder than it sounds!) without moving the muzzle of the weapon more than one seven hundreths of an inch (in any direction)in order to effectively hit the game.

      Endo obviously has no idea what he is talking about thinking that it is "easy" peering through a high powered scope. At high power, the very breathing of your body will exaggerate the movement of the crosshairs of the scope completely off the body of the game. You cannot simple pull the trigger fast because you have only 0.07 inch margin of error at the muzzle which is amazingly hard to manage. Squeezing the trigger without moving the mussle at the end of a nearly five foot weapon is actually very hard to do. Four pounds of resistance feels like trying to pull in a wall.

      Now, we did not even take into consideration any other factors like the fact that most game is not quietly sitting out in an open area that is flat and horizontal to the hunter or (one of the most important factors) the ballistics of the round. Each bullet has a different shape, load and ballistic factor. Trajectory decay for the specific manufacture and grain load dynamic is different for nearly every manufactured load. Hunting elk, I have had to make as much as 42 inches of drop calculations for a successful shot.

      Despite what all the gun control and ignorant wish to say about hunting; any game... (and I mean "any" game)is that it is incredibly difficult under the best of conditions. I can tell you from experience, it is far more difficult than you can ever imagine and one of the most difficult and challanging sports to excell at. Unlike golf, that is *exactly* why so relatively few people ever attempt to do it.

    • Very impressive. Elk hunting. You sit out there, up wind, with your high powered rifle, and your high powered scope and you waite till an elk comes along. What is he, 200 yards away. You waite till he stops and bends over to eat. Then you shoot. What a fair fight that was !!! lmao. And you guys call that a sport. Shooting a defenseless animal who's a football field away.
      regards endo

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      I have been on a golf course on numerous occasions and came to my conclusion that it is a game for wusses from experiencing what the game has to offer.

      You, on the other hand, by your post showing a complete lack of understanding and appreciation for the challanges of a real hunt, have demonstrated that you have absoulutely no idea what you are talking about.

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      • You sit out there, up wind, with your high powered rifle, and your high powered scope and you waite till an elk comes along. What is he, 200 yards away. You waite till he stops and bends over to eat. Then you shoot. What a fair fight that was !!! lmao. -- endo

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        Hey Verm,

        You always enjoy using mathmatics to prove points. How about helping me out here?

        Say a hunter were to sight game (say a large mule deer) that has not detected the hunter and therefore standing very calm and still. Lets also decide that the game is standing completely at a right angle to the hunter in order to allow a full side view, that there is complete line-of-sight without the normal obstructions of a forested area where they normally live. Lets say that the deer is quietly standing in a field of grass. Not moving and there is no wind and the terrain is totally flat so that the shooter does not need to take into consideration elevation calculations into his shot. The temperature (of course) is totally wonderful and therefore the atmosphere is stable and dense.

        None of this will actually occure in real life unless you are hunting the Kansas farmer kid's domesticated deer which is on a tether in the yard but, for sake of endo's comment that hunting is so easy, lets just assume that this is the case. In fact, lets also assume that the shooter is well rested, not out of breath or physically stressed in any manner. he is sitting comfortably at a table with a stable platform to fire from.

        This perfect case senerio will offer the shooter a kill zone (large deer, remember?) of approximately 1.5 feet diameter.

        If the shooter were to line the sight in the middle of the effective kill zone on the animal, pull the trigger but, be off by a mere half inch when the projectile left the muzzle of the weapon and traveled 200 yards, would the projectile be within the kill zone?

        I honestly do not know the answer to this question. Will you please enlighten us?

    • fish_discover_water_last fish_discover_water_last Aug 19, 2012 2:47 PM Flag

      Clearly standing in a steam waiting for a fish to get hungry is much more exciting than playing golf.

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