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  • fore6996 fore6996 Feb 22, 2011 9:57 PM Flag

    It's like Cairo has moved to Madison.

    " contrary to what you may have heard, public-sector workers in Wisconsin and elsewhere are paid somewhat less than private-sector workers with comparable qualifications"

    Sorry but the WSJ, USA Today, et al have had articles in the last year clearly showing the qual adjusted comparisions show public sector employees make more than private. Those articles actually use facts not your unsupported supposition.

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    • Maybe the NON union PRIVATE sector need to join a UNION, fore6996.

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      We need some "checks and balance" to corporate control in this country.

      '"Worker productivity has increased dramatically since the brief recession of 2001, but wages and job growth have lagged behind. At the same time, the share of national income going to corporate profits has dwarfed the amount going to wages and salaries," the study found.

      "That helps explain why the median household income for working-age families, adjusted for inflation, has fallen for five straight years.

      "These and other factors have helped push 43% of the nation's 37 million poor people into deep poverty — the highest rate since at least 1975. The share of poor Americans in deep poverty has climbed slowly but steadily over the last three decades,"'

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      Note: This article was written during REAGAN'S and BUSH's "BOOM YEARS", prior to 2007 and the great Bush collapse of 2008.

      http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-02-25-us-poverty_x.htm

      Report: In U.S., record numbers are plunged into poverty
      Posted 2/25/2007 2:43 AM ET

      WASHINGTON (AFP) — The gulf between rich and poor in the United States is yawning wider than ever, and the number of extremely impoverished is at a three-decade high, a report out Saturday found.

      Based on the latest available U.S. census data from 2005, the McClatchy Newspapers analysis found that almost 16 million Americans live in "deep or severe poverty" defined as a family of four with two children earning less than 9,903 dollars — one half the federal poverty line figure.

      For individuals the "deep poverty" threshold was an income under 5,080 dollars a year.

      "The McClatchy analysis found that the number of severely poor Americans grew by 26% from 2000 to 2005," the U.S. newspaper chain reported.

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      "That's 56% faster than the overall poverty population grew in the same period," it noted.

      The surge in poverty comes alongside an unusual economic expansion.

      "Worker productivity has increased dramatically since the brief recession of 2001, but wages and job growth have lagged behind. At the same time, the share of national income going to corporate profits has dwarfed the amount going to wages and salaries," the study found.

      "That helps explain why the median household income for working-age families, adjusted for inflation, has fallen for five straight years.

      "These and other factors have helped push 43% of the nation's 37 million poor people into deep poverty — the highest rate since at least 1975. The share of poor Americans in deep poverty has climbed slowly but steadily over the last three decades," the report said.


      more at link above


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      • Maybe they do; maybe they don't. I have not argued that people should not have unions as an option in private or public sector. I have opinions on those topics, but my post was not about that. I don't believe I have ever said (as some have) that unions are 'obsolete'.

        My post only pointed out that claims you made about compensation of public vs. private sector workers were not supported by mainstream new sources and their analysis.

        What you said (i.e. public employees make less) was definitely true at one time. But is it not true now. Why that is the case or even if that should be the case or not is a different debate.

        Personally I believe there still is a place for unions in the USA today. It is different that it was 100 years ago or even 25 years ago. But a place still exists.

 
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