Did you see the
Looks obvious that at least some shares came from the
treasury of authorized but not issued shares. So how many
shares out now? What about our reciprical investment in
VIA? Inquiring minds want to know.
Thanks to those of you with kind thoughts about
ancient history. Bee, I appreciate your explanation, but
I took your first volley as a personal attack. I
can usually ignore those, but this one was a subject
close to my heart.
Apologies to those who are
impatient with OTs. I sometimes get that way myself, yet I
continue to learn from a few of them.
nuf . . .
I was refering to the politicians, not your
Nice to see that there are those that were there and
are able to understand the wisdom of my words. As
those that understand the truth are no longer in the
thick of things..... those coming up the ladder have
lost the perspective that the experienced ones
There are those that didn't live those days and don't
realize the make up of the minds that we're dealing
The short of my comment was...."shit or get off the
pot", I was trying to keep it clean. We've enter the
final age of the Romans when instead to picking up the
sword and using it..... we're trying to buy off our
It all started when they wouldn't give Patton the
gas to go to Moscow.
As to the two
carriers..........a two carrier task forces can do more than enough
damage if they're given the chance to do what they were
designed to do when doing the "Full Tilt Boogie" but our
politicians aren't up to the mental task and won't let
I personally am ashamed of what our country and
government has become (a bunch of weak kneed sissies that
are afraid of getting dirty)...... but it is my
country so this is my cross to bare.
My words were
not intended to offend but make a statement about our
government and how they, as representatives, are doing a
major disservice to the people of this country and this
constant diplomatic chatter is not going to end the Chi
Coms aggressive behavior. They are going to build a
deep water navy with ballistic missile submarines.
They're going to build a nuclear missile delivery system
and then when it's to their advantage.....the Chi
Coms are going to use it against the United States of
It's not a matter of if but a matter of
when. I personally believe it's time to ask China if
they want war and if not.....then stand down in Korea
and leave Tiawan alone because we're recognizing
Tiawan as an independent country that we're declaring a
Hope the long version helps. Sorry for the offense.
No we do not forget.
My Father transferred
out of B29s(SOPAC)into Fighters(F80/86s if memory
serves)in Korea before his final assignment at Travis back
One Bronze and One Silver...with
Twenty-Six years worth...another 24 with AAFPRO as Air Force
Representative at Plant #6.
He is no longer here to
receive my Respect and Gratitude for the sacrifices He
made for America.
In His place...I Thank You.
"How soon we forget the ChiComs
Forget?? I landed in Pusan 8/50; joined Company L, 7th
Regiment, 1st Cavalry div. Moved across the 38th parallel
several times; accumulated 8 battle stars and one bronze
star. Left Korea 8/51 with all my body parts intact. I
wrote my father from there complaining of the MacArthur
dismissal, and he had my words published in the Detroit
Times. On the line, and in battle, I lost enough of my
friends to believe it needed to be finished. That was the
time and the place to do it.
No, Bee, I
haven't forgotten the most MEMORABLE year in my long
life. Nor have I forgotten the years that situation
dragged on after I left, and the totally unsatisfactory
conclusion that we still pay for.
As for "...stop
killing me with the B.S.", you might re-read #26382. I
simply posed the question of what effect could two
carriers posted off the coast of China have. I believe the
Chinese would see it as a a meaningless
nuf . . .
They both owe the mainland Chinese
for the financial support of their
If we elect or appear to be electing a man
will put this country first and our allies
than Clinton/Gore may be obligated to
other way if China moves on Taiwan!
I spent some
time on patrol in the Formosa
Straights during the
height of the cold war.
With the fierce love for
freedom the Taiwanese
people have and our full
backing, China should
continue to avoid invasion.
Sorry all, for continueing this OT subject... i
just couldn't resist. I have been intensely interested
in China for many years now, and i think you've got
it all wrong Gunkinfluffle.
recent flexing has next to nothing to do with who is
president of the US.
They are in deep doodoo with
regards to the support of their own populace, and have to
continually act tough and divert their people's attentions
away from their own internal problems of corruption
and pollution and growing discontent. Things are not
going very well for them, actually.
So the classic
tactic for unpopular regimes is to make a big show of
fighting something... anything. Falun gong cultists, those
evil Tawainese, etc.
Overall it makes for a
very tense situation, and as the problems mount
internally, the mainland regime may become more
unpredictable, and perhaps violent. Hate to burst your bubble,
but the present course the US administration is
taking is actually the most prudent. If we instead make
a big fuss over defending Taiwan when in reality
the essential dynamics involve vastly different
concerns, we will only make the problem much worse for all
concerned, especially the Taiwanese.
This could make a lot of people happy.
Gore and the Clintons are flying on Air Force
Bill looks at Al, chuckles, and says, "You know, I
throw a $100.00 bill out the window right now and
make one person very happy."
Al shrugs his
stiff shoulders and says, "Well,
I could throw ten
$10.00 bills out the window and
make 10 people very
Hillary tosses her perfectly hair-sprayed hair
says, "I could throw one hundred $1.00 bills
window and make one hundred people
Chelsea rolls her eyes, looks at all of them,
says," I could throw all three of you out
and make 250 million people happy."