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  • s_klumps s_klumps Jun 13, 2009 3:20 PM Flag

    AEE takes the hardest hit !

     

    IRRC just issued this report and reuters carried it.

    Have you looked closely at what will happen to your portfolio if and when carbon cap-and-trade legislation currently moving through Congress becomes the law of the land?

    The Investor Responsibility Research Center Institute has. While IRRC finds in a new report that cap-and-trade would depress earnings by less than 1% for about 200 of the 500 firms in the S&P 500, it also concludes that electric utility earnings could plummet, and that three utilities – Allegheny Energy (AYE), American Electric Power (AEP) and Ameren Corp. (AEE) could see their earnings wiped out completely.

    Importantly, the analysis assumes that each of the nearly three dozen U.S. investor-owned electric utilities that were analyzed would be obligated to pay for every carbon credit they would need to pay for the carbon emitted over and above the industry’s government-set cap.

    This leaves investors to ponder two questions which, at this point, nobody can answer. The first is whether utilities (and all other companies) will in fact be required to buy all the credits they will need under a so-called “auction” process. The power industry is fighting tooth and nail for the federal government, at least at the outset, to make some credits available free of charge. Whether, and to what extent, electric utilities succeed in avoiding having to pay for their credits has the potential to make or break not just the earnings of the three aforementioned utilities but literally the entire industry.

    The second question that can’t be answered with certainty at this point is the specific cap that utilities will have to live with. Once again, the industry is fighting for all its worth for a benign cap that won’t severely penalize utilities for operating what the industry knows is an aging, antiquated fleet of coal-fired power plants that regulators won’t allow to be shut down, given that they supply roughly 50% of America’s total electrical generation.

    If passed, cap-and-trade likely wouldn’t get underway until 2012, but the fallout on utility stock prices could happen a lot sooner than that. So is now the time to sell Allegheny, AEP and Ameren? Is now the time time to sell every coal-dependent utility in your portfolio?

    For conservative investors, the answer may well be yes. For all others, it’s time to keep a watchful eye on Congress.

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    • Cap and trade scare me ..aee will trade at 17 after the current office gets done with the cap and trade nonsense.

    • The cost for carbon credits is a cost of doing business and,in Missouri at least, will be recoverable in rates. It will likely be recovered through the fuel adjustment clause.

      Illinois is another matter. The market there is "competitive" and Ameren's ability to recover carbon taxes will depend on what happens to market prices. I suspect that most, if not all, of the increased cost will be reflected in prices unless natural gas prices are low enough for gas to compete with coal for baseload power.

      You need to learn more about companies and industries before screaming "fire".

    • The study is assuming that utilities shareholders will pay the cost which is incorrect. As regulated monopolies, they are legally entitled to pass the historical costs on in rate increases. Second, the Waxman bill has carved out 85% for free allocation specifically for utilities to get midwestern democrats to support the legislation. Apparently, the authors of the study and the message poster have not looked at the details of the pending legislation.

    • This is another example that the Dem. are going to raise Your Taxes, DO YOU KNOW WHO WILL PAY FOR THIS!! ME AND YOU!!
      We need to Vote out these Libs!!

 
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