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  • pvbud pvbud Jul 3, 2008 12:08 PM Flag

    UMPQ New year low, Ouch...

    Wild Sspeculation . . .

    Perhaps we are seeing a form of manipulation of the market, enabled by a combination of factors including the instant Internet, world wide U. S. dollar reserves and a no-confidence market segment, i.e. the US banking sector.

    Look at TMCV, or BAC for example. By selecting a target currently in segment disfavor, repeatedly selling "short," in larget volumes, the price is ultimately driven downward and profits taken at every depressed level. Very large international financial houses MAY be involved with huge sums of money.

    There is a mysterious reason why the equity value of PROFITABLE banks is being depressed so rapidly an so consistently. After one bank's stock is depressed to a low of a few dollars per share the shares of another bank start the downward spiral almost as if a target has been selected.

    As I said, it's wild speculation; however, a pattern seems to be developing in something other than a so termed, "free market".

    "Isn't that right, 007"?

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    • I'm seeing similar manipulations in coal and oil.

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      • you optimist had better face the facts... a trend of earnings has to be established.. something like 5 quarters .. for the analysts and big invetors to project a higher price.. umpqua had those quarters where they earned in the .22 - .28 range.. projections forward with those numbers were .88 - 1.12 for the year.. given a 10 multiple they are a 9 - 11 dollar stock.. higher earnings would require them to sell some of their visa holdings.. now they can either sell visa.. or lower dividend to a level more inline with current earnings... those are my thoughts...

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