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  • Networthdev Networthdev Mar 19, 2011 12:34 PM Flag

    UTAH energy plan

    Slowly the government turns, but at least there doing something

    Link to article below.

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    • Seveal people who responded to the article got it right
      Its your choice.
      For electricity
      MOst electrical companies allow you to make the choice and payer a little and go green
      AS far as ng vehicles 5o% of Us people have ng to their house
      So put in a pump and go ng
      Oh its ok to go but not if I pay for it,only if government pays for it.My next vehicle will be ng and I will in a couple of years put up some solar panels

    • What is required is for the governors of the 50 states to cooperate and implement a plan to facilitate natural gas refueling stations. Improved air quality and lower fuel cost would be driving factors.

      Each governor would aid the cities of their state plan best locations for use by trucks. All future state vehicles would be powered by natural gas.

      What can NOT be depended on are the elected representatives to Congress. Unfortunately, it seems these individuals no longer represent the best interests of the people. They system at that level has degenerated into a corrupt game of quid pro quo.

      Boone should focus his energy on governors and media. Too many voters just don't understand the potential of natural gas to lower their cost of living. Many think natural gas fueled cars are an impossibility - they are completely unaware that even GM markets a natural gas car in Europe. Because of the mass ignorance, it is very easy for the president and his administration to completely ignore natural gas as a transportation fuel. Indeed, it allows its departments (EPA, DOI) to demonize fracking, allowing it to create roadblocks through regulations.

      The vision of Energy Secretary Chu (who gives Obama his energy talking points) is for an all electric car fleet in America, the electricity being provided by carbon-free nuclear energy. The force of his argument is that this would save the world from a possible CO2 driven climate catastrophe. Of course, he envisions windmills and solar power in place of nuclear energy for electricity eventually - but he knows this is simply not possible for at least 25-50 years.

      But now the nuclear reactors problems in Japan will sway public opinion in the US against Chu's vision of nuclear replacing fossil fuels for generation of electricity.

      That puts Chu's entire vision at risk, for their is no logic to using electric cars whose charging is done with fossil fuels. This is why Obama will continue to push strongly for building more nuclear power plants for the remainder of his tenure as president.

      Bottom-line: The public needs to become educated on the REAL options and the cost/benefit including RISKS of each. If the media presents this fairly, natural gas comes out the winner for a transportation fuel. At least for the next 30 or 40 years.

      Using radioactive materials in close proximity which passively generates the enormous heat to turn water to steam, that then turns turbines - is simply a bad model - because it requires a dynamic - moving water - to prevent catastrophe.

      THE PASSIVE STATE IN THIS MODEL (e.g. if the water stops flowing) IS CATASTROPHIC.

      Every other method of generation is ACTIVE. An active model is the only safe model - if the process stops due to some component failure, then the entire system stops and there is no inherent catastrophe.

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