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  • sulith2001 sulith2001 Mar 3, 2008 6:10 PM Flag

    Tell It Like It Is, Sam

    "Humanity has had a long fascination with blood sacrifice. In fact, it has been by no means uncommon for a child to be born into this world only to be patiently and lovingly reared by religious maniacs, who believe that the best way to keep the sun on its course or to ensure a rich harvest is to lead him by tender hand into a field or to a mountaintop and bury, butcher, or burn him alive as offering to an invisible God. The notion that Jesus Christ died for our sins and that his death constitutes a successful propitiation of a "loving" God is a direct and undisguised inheritance of the superstitious bloodletting that has plagued bewildered people throughout history. . . " -- Sam Harris

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    • Today is your lucky day. I will answer your post. I have a few idle moments.

      Usually, I don't respond to you, because it is hard to inform someone like you, who is wilfully ignorant. And you have a filthy mouth.

      Here is my response:

      You accuse me of saying a lot of things that I did not say. You are a liar and a fool.

      That about covers it.

    • This post does not tell me why I should read the long, tedious article that you posted.

      This post tells almost nothing about what you do believe, except that you think that religion is hypocritical and the antithesis of the spiritual state.

      That is such a generalization. It is irrational to presume that no religious person is sincere or spiritual. In my experience, a great many of them are.

      Religion is the attempt of people to understand God and to relate to God. In that process, surely many mistakes have been made. But there are people all over the world who benefit from religion, and exert a wholesome influence upon mankind.

      Anyone who condemns religion without exceptions, is blind to the facts.

    • Ouch!

    • I3i. First let me say this, I'm not a religous person because I don't believe in hypocrisy, therefore I've never practiced anything. I suppose if I was to practice anything it would be some form of Taoism and I would go become a hermit far away from man. I believe in higher conciousness and spiritual elevation. Religion I find is the antithesis of the spititual state. I'll never forget a book I read from my grandmother's library called The Sorrows of Satan by Marie Coricelli. Luigi, the devil and protagonist of the book is asked by his friend whether or not he can step foot into the church. Luigi says to his friend, of course I can, the priest belongs to me.
      Perhaps I shouldn't make judgements but I have never met a spiritual priest, rabbi or religious person for that matter.
      I do not wish to offend anybody's religion but all this micro analysis is nonsense to me. Don't forget we are walking apes with the same genes as monkeys and we are the worst creatures on the planet.

    • Just got home from tennis. LMAO Rocky. Excellent!

    • There are a few nuances here, Sulith.

      Jesus was not put to death by the practioners of his religion to appease God, as the Aztecs did. Jesus was put to death by his enemies. The followers of Jesus were horrified by the crucifixion.

      If we assign any blame to the Jews for the death of Jesus, it was not a sacrifice to God. It was a murder to rid themselves of a rival.

      Many Christians have come to understand the death of Jesus as redemptive, not to satisfy an angry God, but as a moral example to themselves, the Christians. Its true that Christians believe that they are "saved from their sins" by the example of Jesus' life and death, just as, in a similiar way, some people believe that they have been "saved" from destructive lifestyles by the example of some other good person, who "inspired" them to live better lives.

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