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  • thearizonacardinals thearizonacardinals Feb 18, 2013 7:33 PM Flag

    Bill Gates thinks Windows Phone was a mistake

    Search for "Bill Gates smartphone". This is from today. Just got to be patient and wait for quarterly results to prove him otherwise.

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    • videoctr@frontiernet.net videoctr Feb 23, 2013 4:12 PM Flag

      There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman Digital Equipment Corp. 1977

    • It is precisely because of this view from him that seriously troubled Microsoft is now so far behind not only Apple but even Google . Microsoft was the pre-eminent king, then it was a prince, now it is a 3 % !

    • The mistake if any is that MS as the big boy failed to size up the competition.
      I picked today a Verizon 822 and it was like pulling teeth. The sales people almost could not believe I was insisting on Nokia since now they all have an " 8MPx camera". The phone is nice but ackward to me ( my apple past).
      The youth were looking for other things.
      That is the big miss. With all the money and power they have abdicated.
      It is going to be along hard row to get back in the mind of US youth anyways.
      Hopefully the news are better from overseas.
      NOk better have something up their sleve.
      The writting box suks!

      Sentiment: Hold

    • Steve Wozniak thinks Windows Mobile 8 is 'beautiful' and better than IOS.

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      • Board is blocking my posts.

        I listened to the interview and Woz isn't talking about the phone OS he is talking about desktop OSes but comparing Android to them. The CNet article makes it sound different from what he actually said. There is a link to the interview podcast over at Tech Central that you can get to from the article.

      • But he said back in October that he hates using it. That comment didn't get much press.

        at CNet: /8301-17852_3-57530563-71/woz-apple-got-arrogant

        I am grateful to Business Insider, which spotted that Woz had given an interview with South African tech site TechCentral.

        As usual, Woz oozed sincerity, especially when it comes to iPhone 5.

        "Part of me wishes Apple had not been so, kind of, arrogant and feeling like 'we're the only one with the right clue.' I wish they had made wider versions -- a small and a large version of the iPhone," he said.

        Yes, he did say arrogant. And I don't I feel he said it because he has unusually large hands.

        Indeed, he explained: "I think Apple tricked itself by saying 'Oh, you can reach everything with one thumb.' And I don't see anybody having trouble using the larger screens (...) But Apple said that as a defensive move because everyone else had larger screens."

        Warming to his thesis, he said: "Not all people want the same thing. A lot of people want the big screens." Just as they want big cars and even big meals.

        "You get a feeling you're getting more with a larger screen," he mused.

        The interview ranged over many subjects.

        Woz reiterated his fondness for Android: "I hated using Windows. I don't have that feeling about Android."

        He wishes "that Apple had taken steps to maintain the lion's market share."

        He also wishes "that iPhone had been just a great a product as it was, but more open."

        As for the way phones are marketed, he offered: "Comparing feature to feature to feature, that's just bullslosh [my edit]." No one buys a phone, he said, because it has one feature and another phone doesn't.

        Woz fears that "there might be a marketing shortcoming" that explains why Apple's global market share isn't as big as he thinks it ought to be. What sort of shortcoming he didn't make entirely clear.

        He also re-emphasized his disdain for the Apple-Samsung patent lawsuit.

        The whole interview was highly entertaining. I wonder how many people at Apple might have listened.

    • nice bashing dude, panic & sell your shares & afraid it's going to pop tomorrow?
      bad enough someone used "smartphone" when gates said cellphone but you take it to a new level saying "Window Phone". Clearly gates was talking about the PAST mobile strategies, that OBVIOUSLY didn't work

    • DUDE!!! SERIOUSLY!! GEEZUS are you guys ALL F ng IDIOTS??? This is what he said:

      From CBS news:

      (CBS News) Bill Gates remains chairman of Microsoft, but he stepped back from his day-to-day role nearly five years ago.

      In a recent interview with "CBS This Morning" co-host Charlie Rose Gates said he's not satisfied with the company's innovations.

      Asked by Rose if he's happy with chief executive officer Steve Ballmer's performance, Gates said, "Well, he and I are two of the most self-critical people -- you can imagine. And here were a lot of amazing things that Steve's leadership got done with the company in the last year. Windows 8 is key to the future, the Surface computer. Bing, people are seeing as a better search product, Xbox."

      "But is -- is it enough?" he said. "No, he and I are not satisfied that in terms of, you know, breakthrough things, that we're doing everything possible."

      Gates admitted the company didn't "get out in the lead very early" on cell phones. He said, "We didn't miss cell phones, but the way that we went about it didn't allow us to get the leadership. So it's clearly a mistake."

      He is saying they screwed up by not getting out in front with a strong product instead of trying to play catchup.

      Did you actually READ or WATCH the interview or are you spouting #$%$ you read somewhere or do you have some other agenda? Another idiot. Wow... on a whole other level of idiocy.

    • Mobile is the future.

      Maybe he's referring the Baldmer's brain fart - thinking for 1 second that they could actually build their own surface phone after they couldn't even build a decent iPod (mp3) or a tablet. Maybe that's the mistake he's talking about.

      And worst case, Nokia dominates (76%) of the windows market for years to come due to their intrinsic advantage with windows and location services while at the same time releasing the same killer phones using FREE android. And Unlike everyone else, Nokia won't have to pay softy royalties if they use android since I'm sure softy uses many more patents from Nokia's trove than Nokia by using android.

      If Nokia were to announce tomorrow they were adding android to their arsenal the stock would jump 30%. The main reason (besides the obvious huge boost in sales) is that they no longer need softy like they did 2 years ago since they're now profitable and because the $250 million Nokia gets from softy now simply gets returned so there's no real benefit to being exclusive like in the first 2 years.

      And Nokia would maintain their inherent advantage with windows since they were a partner in programming it and it has Navteq built in so Nokia will continue to get a reduced rate as well as advanced (30-60 days) release on new versions or updates. For example, I expect Nokia to get 30-60 days head start once they launch a windows tablet. That's a big deal since it helps you get better traction and bigger market share, a strategy which worked very well with the 920.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • Whatever made him make such a statement undermining his own co? I don't understand. May be he does not like baldy balmer any more at the helm of msft and wants to blame him. I think winphones are great. I do not know what he is talking about and why. With friends like that msft does not need enemies, LOL!!!

    • Yeah, Microsoft should never have become involved with mobile technology. It's not like Apple or Google make any money related to their mobile OS or hardware, right?

 
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