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  • tradingprofit Jul 20, 2013 11:19 AM Flag

    MSFT 2nd Bid

    Imo, Balmer will come back with a second bid for aqcuisition of Nokia. The question is what was his intial offer? 5$, 6$? What did Elop want? 8$, 7$? Will they meet half way? 6.5$ ? 2 years ago MSFT had a look at the books and backed down, PPS was around 10$ if i'm not mistaken. Now negotiations yielded an offer but was considered to low. Chances are they will come to an agreement and meet half way or pay full premium. MSFT can't afford to letthe Chinese or AAPL, GOOG, HP, etc etc pick up Nokia. It's vital for MSFT to aqcuire Nokia and secure it's future in the device segment witch we all know is the future in consumergoods. Just my thoughts, excuse me for my average english :-). Good luck.

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    • Microsoft's purchase attempt was for the handset division only. Cash for a division, not a stake in Nokia and not a share purchase of any kind. And it failed. After the quarterly results Nokia just published I think Ballmer is breathing a sigh of relief that he was turned down. 

    • m$ft will not buy nok because the Finnish laws make it too difficult
      one of two things are very likely to happen this quarter
      1. buy devices/HERE for $25B with supporting patents
      2. m$ft form a new company with devices/HERE as the nucleus
      although #2 will boost the PPS, it will be theft on a grand scale. making/selling devices at cost while m$ft profits through Bing/etc. If m$ft owns 50.1%, it'll end up like NSN did for Siemens

      let's hope for #1, instant $8 pps

    • MSFT will have to pay 10-12. Nokia has the upper hand in this deal as they can turn around this company still and its all up from here, while MSFT is all down hill if Nokia fails to sell more. Nokia if need be can jump to just NSN, HERE, and their patents ➕ R&D of all their pipeline. MSFT will fail and doesn't have such a great back up plan. If Nokia can turn company around by winter then MSFT is looking at a $20 buyout, so I don't see that happening. Elop maybe from MSFT but Nokia is his legacy! And I don't think he wil sell out.

    • $6.5 would really be too low. I think at least $8 and more like $10 considering the real value of the patents, HERE, and NSN (NN) and that the phones are really good and truly turning the corner. And NOK has lots of good manufacuring facilities that are not cheap to replace. If price is less than $8 some would have to be in MSFT shares so NOK owners could at least take advantage of the steal MSFT got. Of course they can just then buy MSFT shares.

    • true. it's not like msft can do with phones what they did with pcs.

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