Long term MSFT/NOK strategy and new worldwide explosion of Lumia demand, plus new Mercd.* etc. alliances, plus Siemen's strong century-old foundation-backbone--- makes the big boys target 12 to 16 pps for NOK in the long run. This is the LT strategic vision behind the recent upgrades, IMHO. This makes the big boys load up ginormously at these levels and forget it for a couple of years!