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  • keep_investing keep_investing Nov 17, 2009 12:52 PM Flag

    Being a shareholder has been a nightmare

    <<Learn the PV game.>>

    Steve, learn to take the angst and emotion out of your analysis of CCTR.
    CCTR management has just predicted record revenues and profit for their 3Q report on Friday.
    Below is the current risk evaluation for CCTR, and its much better than Ford's high risk evaluation( Ford is a higher risk than 92% of the other 8,000 companies), of which George Soros just bought $53M of F.
    So would you call Soros a investment fool?

    "China Crescent Enterprises, Inc. (CCTR) is currently rated as having Average Accounting & Governance Risk (AGR®), receiving an AGR score that places them in the 58th percentile among the approximately 8,000 companies in North America rated by Audit Integrity, indicating higher accounting and governance risk than 42% of the other companies."

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    • I'd never buy a car maker, but you can at least trust Ford as a real company. I see their cars and I can view their plant. PV's only history for 8 years is screwing investors with multiple shells. The only people that have benefited from this game is PV, his family, and Rauch. NWMT would be making noise in the industry with $100 million in revenue. Instead their stock is down 99% to $.19 after a 25-1 reverse split and more dilution.

      I'm all for doing fundemental analysis, but toss it out the window with PV. 1) Dilution 2) Who are the clients? 3) Auditor issues 4) PV lied about dividends, national listing, etc 5) $527 monthly lease in China 6) Do you honestly think a billionaire investor would even look at PV's companies? In ten seconds they would yell "scam" with all these weird pumper PR's designed to attack naive investors.

      The guy has a billion shares "after" the 20-1 reverse split. Makes you wonder if the revenue numbers are just the stock proceeds. The company isn't transparent enough to really make any judgement.

      I know you want to believe in this needle in a haystack gem, but there is a reason it is continuing to slide. This is all part of the "Greenfield Strategy" against naive investors.

      Just sit back and read the last 30 pr's and tell me if this sounds like a normal pr list. It smells of a "get rich quick" scam. What other CEO tells you to dollar cost average and a short squeeze is coming? After that short squeeze comment it is down another 75%.

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      • <<I'd never buy a car maker, but you can at least trust Ford as a real company.>>

        Yeah, I guess George Soros is clueless because he put $53 into Ford, and I must really be dumb for buying F at just over $2 per share and then selling it at just above $6, making a $10K profit. But I'm sure you know better than the rest of us, because apparently you use emotion, not fact to make your buying & selling decisions.
        By the way wasn't Enron, WorldCom, & Tyco, consider real companies, before their CEO's went to jail for corruption.

        <<I'm all for doing fundemental analysis, but toss it out the window with PV. 1) Dilution 2) Who are the clients? 3) Auditor issues 4) PV lied about dividends, national listing, etc 5) $527 monthly lease in China 6)>>

        We'll see how much of what you say is fact or just plain nonsense, when they report their 3Q earnings.

        <<Do you honestly think a billionaire investor would even look at PV's companies? In ten seconds they would yell "scam" with all these weird pumper PR's designed to attack naive investors.>>

        No, and I'm glad billionaires aren't buying CCTR, because this is where small investors, like me, have a chance of making some real dough, as long as we only use the money we can afford to lose on these speculative stocks.
        PS: I made $34K off of ACTC, buying at 4 to 5 cents a share, and selling at 20 cents. So you can make good dough on these penny stocks, as long as you don't get too greedy.

        <<I know you want to believe in this needle in a haystack gem, but there is a reason it is continuing to slide. This is all part of the "Greenfield Strategy" against naive investors.>>

        Oh yeah, the "Greenfield Strategy" against naive investors, now that sounds a little paranoid to me.

 
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