I have not posted for some time now after giving ZigZag 'What For' some months ago when Miller was in the teens. As a long standing advocate of this companies products, I must say that when I heard today that Miller's largest dealer in the southeast was promoting and selling a 'clone' product, Riviera, to none other than the dealers home county in a multi-hundred thousand dollar deal, it made me wake up and smell the coffee.
Miller has lost its grip on its top tier dealers and with that no doubt their story mirrors Steelcase now. Sad to see this happening to this one, of the Big Four, that I thought was going to stand head and shoulders above the rest. With the 'clones' moving in there goes the ball game and I now favor the shorts. Word to the wise sell now and take the money, 04 looks like a disaster in the making. Good luck to all.
Hello PV, last note for the evening. When you recommended investors BUY BUY BUY this morning, you must have really meant B'BYE B'BYE B'BYE, based upon the results after hours. Great call.
Gard, I applaud your spin and would have been with you a few months back. However your missing the point. Until this rogue situation is handled, there can be no positive spin as far as I am concerned. Miller either fixes it or it will fix Miller.
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Business Manufacturers Association.
Talk about hard times, take a look at Virco's
statement regarding the qtr. They are in the
educational and govt. end, one MLHR expressed
interest in entering through an aquisition.
Calm down boys(or maybe it's girls). The wonder of these boards is that you can appear to be whomever you wish to be. You can talk as if you were successful, when you actually weren't. You can talk as if you know what you are talking about, when in reality you're just trying to sling dirt.
Fostercase, the unwritten rule though is that when throwing slanderous accusations you do not use names, either of individuals or companies. I am an investor also, just like you say that you are. I find it hard to believe that as an "investor" you just "heard"
about this sale. I don't believe this sale was listed in any HMI annual report or 10K. By chance might you formerly be invested in Miller's Pension Plan? You do sound rather disgruntled. Have you "heard" about any orders lost in Calif, NY, Fla. or any other part of the country.? Quit whining.This probably was not an order lost, just one that wasn't won. There's a difference.
I would disagree also with your statement that Miller is losing their top tier dealer loyalty.
I'll bet that this dealer busted their tail trying to sell HMI product, probably making numerous joint calls with their local representation. As an investor, I realize that these times are difficult, and you can't win every order. It is imperative though, that Miller and it's dealers work as hard as they can together, trying to get their product specified at every opportunity. That's what will be good for all investors.
You have awfully deep opinions about how Herman Miller should be distributing for someone who has never worked with them, Pal. The facts are that you are misinformed. You are correct, you don't know much about us---which explains my venum when you call us out by name, Mr. or Mrs. Investor. Who is slanderous? I can assure that if you think a high producing Herman Miller dealership is bad for Herman Miller (or aka. a rogue dealer), your opinion is misinformed as well.
The best fit for Herman Miller is a dealer that can sell the most Herman Miller, not ONLY Herman Miller. We proudly lead with Herman Miller and take offense to your rogue dealer comments. I would be glad to discuss this with you at length, 770-621-6650. Otherwise, I'm back to work selling Herman Miller---quite successfully I might add. Over and out!
Thanks for that info vega, whats up with this guy? Quite distrurbed it would appear. He needs to take a chill pill or a stiff drink. He validates my statements and blames some other poor slobs. Until Miller checks this type of situation I remain a strong sell.
Hello so called VP from the aforementioned rogue Miller dealership.
1. I have never worked for Herman Miller
2. Whoever you are directing your comments to should be alerted to your slanderous comments, they are not becoming to a VP in any market.
3. I have a history on this board of supporting Herman Miller. Look it up Pal.
4. What I do not support is rogue dealers.
5. Sorry for the mistaken County afiliation, if I knew more about you I guess I would have gotten the County right.
Finally, take your venum someplace else and not to Herman Miller investors, I happen to be retired from a totally different Industry.
Have a nice day.
As VP of Sales for Herman Miller's largest dealer in the Southeast(headquartered in Dekalb County by the way), I typically don't have time to respond to this type of crap. Yes, we did just get a Riveria job from a two year old spec. I am sure that this whole thing has started from the two disgruntled, ex-Herman Miller employees who's new start up dealer lost the bid. You two, should really spend more time beating the streets and not the chat rooms.
As for Herman Miller and our relationship in the Georgia marketplace, it has never been stronger and the numbers bear it out. I can assure you that we are in much better shape now that Herman Miller has shored up their local team with producers. We have become solid partners. I would have to tell you that Herman Miller IS smelling the coffee. It is not "control" that produces sales. It is a mutually benefiting partnership backed by hard working, committed individuals. Yes, it's not the Herman Miller you worked for---it's a better one. My recommendation on Herman Miller stock, buy, buy, buy!