Darrow, the attackers who like to do nothing other than make personal attacks on posters who take a critical view have gotten out of hand. The guys love to do it to this board and then run back to the cult club board and complain about the nonsense over here. They are the ones posting the nonsense who can't engage in a coversation on OE. It is very hard to prove that a company that has nothing but losses and has a share price near all time lows is a great investment or a well run company. Many of those cult clubbers get very upset when you attack their God.