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  • phoenixphoenixclouds phoenixphoenixclouds Nov 13, 2013 1:18 PM Flag

    Using maternity care to discredit the ACA shows a colossal ignorance of how insurance works

    & it's part and parcel of the gop war on women...

    "In a functioning insurance marketplace, healthy people pay into the pool with the understanding that when they someday need care, they will get it. The greater the number buying policies covering a broad range of conditions, the lower the rates can be.

    So women pay for policies that happen to cover treatment for prostate cancer -- which, by the way, they don't even cause -- and Viagra for men.

    And men, often known as "husbands" and "fathers," pay into the pool for maternity coverage, which would be unaffordable if only women of childbearing age paid premiums for it.

    The core of Ellmers' argument is: I shouldn't have to pay for anyone else's care. That's an argument against insurance itself. Instead of paying premiums, everyone should just save up to pay for chemotherapy, blood pressure medicine and kidney transplants in case they're needed. Of course the inability of nearly all Americans to do that is the reason the private insurance industry developed.

    Conservatives' choice of maternity care as an avenue to discredit health care reform is the latest volley in what some see as a GOP war on women. It makes no sense for a party posturing as pro-life: The inclusion of maternity care in the Affordable Care Act, as well as requirements to cover newborn and pediatric care, are the ultimate pro-life policies. They ensure care for moms and basic protections for children outside the womb, which should help reduce the rate of abortion. Kids who get medical care are more likely to succeed in school and grow up to be productive citizens rather than a drain on taxpayers.

    Those who carp at maternity coverage in insurance policies show they understand neither the insurance market nor this basic fact: If mothers get the care they need to give birth to healthy children, every single American is better off. Dads included."

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    • Nothing external needed to discredit Obummercare. The Dumbos own that abyss all to themselves.

    • "Insurance" is weighed and based on RISK... IF you can't have kids... there is no insurance risk relative to maternity

      IF your forced to pay a premium for something you have ZERO risk factors for... IT CANNOT BE DEFINED AS INSURANCE

      You libs continue to twist the reality... do not call it insurance IF it fails the test of what insurance is

      Its not a war on women... its a war top win one's FREEDOM back

      • 3 Replies to central_scrutinizer_fz
      • Men get time off work for maternity leave

      • and hey, no more coverage for any of those rare disease that only one in a million, get...... to bad for you if you get one, right? or if you get bit by a snake, too bad right, unless you buy the snake rider?
        and no more Viagra for you or Tush Limbalz

      • gee, how come you haven't been railing against corporate insurance which for decades has met the ACA standard of including maternity.

        and hey. why put men is a separate and more expensive pool... they have more cancer..... more accidents........ why not put all fat people in a pool.... call it the tush limpbalz pool.

        hey why not everyman for himself?

        "So women pay for policies that happen to cover treatment for prostate cancer -- which, by the way,
        they don't even cause -- and Viagra for men.
        And men, often known as "husbands" and "fathers," pay into the pool for maternity coverage, which
        would be unaffordable if only women of childbearing age paid premiums for it.
        The core of [tea] argument is: I shouldn't have to pay for anyone else's care. That's an argument
        against insurance itself. Instead of paying premiums, everyone should just save up to pay for
        chemotherapy, blood pressure medicine and kidney transplants in case they're needed. Of course the inability of nearly all Americans to do that is the reason the private insurance industry developed."

        typical of the gop war on women that they whine about motherhood to make a stupid political point.

 
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