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Badger is right. However, It does require a
micro-kernel which could be anything (including the free Linux
Kernel). The performance boost would be tangible because
than Oracle doesnt have to go through the OS managed
memory buffers....Oracle has its own Memory Mgt more
suited to DB apps.

As for the n/w stuff etc Net8
(SQL*Net) has lots of that functionality....so Oracle can
do without an OS for the most part.

Raw Iron
is excellent for servers sitting behind some big web
sites.

I looked on Oracles database and sure enough it says it is ported to machines without an underlying OS. I'll read the article. Thanks.

And it is true that a scaled down OS will be
needed. The way Oracle manages the resources it uses you
realize it does incorporate a lot of OS-like functioning
within the kernal already. This paradigm helps make
porting the product a bit easier.

"Raw Iron"
proposes to strip out overhead not required for an Oracle
server. This would produce a "data base appliance". Since
most Oracle serving machines end up being pretty much
dedicated to just running the database anyway it can make
sense. The question I have is how much performance gain
you really get from stripping out the superflous
functions from the OS.

Here is an article from the
Oracle Web site from the announcement they made at
OpenWorld or a timeframe
thereabout.

http://www.oracle.com/cgi-bin/press/printpr.cgi?file=199811160500.11652.html&mod
e=corp&td=01&product=00&tm=09&fd=01&fm=07&status=Search&ty=1999&keyword=

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I'm not an expert on Oracle, but I find it hard
to believe that it runs without an operating system.
They would have to write an OS to provide the services
that the DB would require and nothing else would be
able to run on the server including all of the
networking software.

The OO/RDBMS is NOT an OS however, don't forget Oracle
is working on RAW IRON which by passes the need for an OS.

I'm 51 and don't see myself as pops quite yet. I
program in C++ as it was a OOP to C. I also work in
Visual Basic. There are, strangely enough alot of jobs
available for cobol and fortran programmers working on Y2K.
I did alittle of it, but after working on the new
stuff, Cobol gets old in a hurry.

I agree that
SQL Server is not much competition to Oracle yet, my
point was that saying that a customer is on Oracle or
Nt misses altogether. Oracle is not an OS and they
must be running something, probably Unix. I lost
alittle on Sunw, I don't know enough about them to make
any intelligent decisions.

Good Luck, Cheers

I see you're a jaded old fart with nothing better
to do than sling code and argue about IT
terminology. Sounds like you've hit the jackpot,
congrats.

By the way, is the FORTRAN consulting market picking
up again?
I heard they're revitalizing ASSEMBLER.
Uh huh, it's called Visual A ++, you'll be in demand
big time then old guy.


Take some Geritol
and chill pops.