Good news / bad news. On the bad side of course was the significantly lower orders. Good news: despite what will be a terrible Q1, they still expect 2003 to be better than 2002, which means future quaters would have to improve. Also, cash burn for Q4 was next to nothing. Also, todays price still holding $3 could mean a bottom. Notice I say "could", because for me to call a bottom is a sure sign that it wouldn't be!! ;-) I've got a feeling there are plenty of us more than eager to load up in the $2's which is likely why it will not happen. Remember the best thing about a long downturn is, the longer the downturn, the bigger the upturn!! NO CEB, I've not bought any shares today or put in any bids.........yet ;-) I haven't listened to the CC yet, but I will. For the record, INTT is not my biggest position in the sector,(although it is definitely getting bigger) NANO is. NANO much cheaper on any price/balance sheet measure, and also low cash burn, and also great prospects for future. Gosh, it's even less than net working capital.