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  • happygambler34 happygambler34 Apr 22, 2010 12:47 PM Flag

    Phoney General Motors Ad

    "We paid our loan in full(bull)...

    They paid $6.7 B, but are still obligated for $43.3 B given to them by the taxpayers. The balance is collateralized by worthless paper stock certificates conveyed to the taxpayers. Nobody knows when that papr will be worth anything, but, considering GM's long tern unfunded liabilities, the redemption date is some between the distant future and never.

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    • Would you have been satisfied had bdt100 told you that her husband owned a copy of "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics" by Goodman and Gilman? This would date the text to somewhere between 1970 and 1990. I believe that more recent editions are now being written by at least one of the sons of the coauthors.

    • He should also get his alter ego, mumbodumbo, to check his posts for errors.

      1. bizarrity is a neologism or brain fart, unless he meant barratry, and then it's just stupid and misspelled.
      2. "you" demanding should be "your" demanding
      3. "their's" should be "theirs"

      Three errors in 53 words. One can only imagine the editorial angst created by having an actual article of 1000 words to resolve.

      Sorry to bother you btdt, but I don't see vermit (as vermit; mumbodumbo is fun to watch) unless you or others quote him.

    • <<<<<But looking at the monstrous, and I believe imposible hill they have to climb>>>>>

      That is only if there is zero growth, none whatsoever for decades. The full success of GM may not happen in our lifetime, bit I am proud to have contributed to the success and survival of an American company. I am particularly proud of the taxes I paid helped to keep millions of jobs at GM and the associated very small businesses that survive only because of GM's existence. I need only look at the GM plant in Arlington (TX) and it's location to know how many small businesses exist only because of GM. My taxes have helped Texas, numerous school districts in Texas, and assured another generation of Texans will go to higher education because of my tax contribution. Those workers that have stayed employed are contributing to the government that assures our freedoms through their income taxes.

      Looking at the economy as a linearity and simple cause and effect as the Cluster Fox Liars always distort to the easily led is very bad for ones brain. Just ask the drooler class

    • <<< Watch and be disappointed at GM's success. >>>

      I won't be dissapointed IIIIIIFFFFF they succeed. But looking at the monstrous, and I believe imposible hill they have to climb, I believe success is impossible. Adding 1 and 1, the only way I believe they have a chance for success is for the taxpayers to assume and agree to pay its unfunded liabilities. Then, in order to compete, they'll have to start their employee compensation plan from scratch. I don't believe the AFL/CIO owner will allow that to happen.

      You can pretend they can succeed by hope and change.

      Can you pretend to be an accountant, and come up with a plan to pay the their committed expenses?

      And no more government HIRED HANDS smoke and mirrors claiming they've paid their taxpayer loan with other taxpayer provided TARP escrow account monies----

      http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_14957343

      GM misleading with debt claim

      While it's true that GM has repaid its bailout money, it has done so with funds from another taxpayer-funded account.

    • ##############
      Again, rodentess, do you not realize the bizarrity of you demanding that, when you would not even tell me the names of any books in your dead husband's supposedly world-famous library?

      It is interesting that the rodents who most refuse to answer my questions are so outraged when I do not answer their's. ----------------------------------------

      You do not answer because you cannot vermit. You are nothing but a lying pathetic loser.
      ##############

      <<You do not answer because you cannot vermit.>>


      Ironically, you accuse me of what you do. Why were you unable to tell me the name of ANY book in your dead husband's world-famous library?

      I am not answering, because I do not answer personal questions unless I want to. For example, I never answered requests to prove I went to MIT, something we know was a true claim.

      But I will make a deal with you--if you prove your dead husband had an MD from an accredited American medical school, I will send you a copy of my thesis.

    • Again, rodentess, do you not realize the bizarrity of you demanding that, when you would not even tell me the names of any books in your dead husband's supposedly world-famous library?

      It is interesting that the rodents who most refuse to answer my questions are so outraged when I do not answer their's. ----------------------------------------

      You do not answer because you cannot vermit. You are nothing but a lying pathetic loser.

    • <<So vermit, when are you going to show us YOUR publications?
      >>

      Again, rodentess, do you not realize the bizarrity of you demanding that, when you would not even tell me the names of any books in your dead husband's supposedly world-famous library?

      It is interesting that the rodents who most refuse to answer my questions are so outraged when I do not answer their's.

    • So vermit, when are you going to show us YOUR publications?

      There should be at least one to support your lie of having a PhD.

    • #############
      I have indeed "made it" in physics.

      You are just not aware of the situation.
      -------------------------------------------

      Your current vocation of competing with retardo to be #1 @#$% of the MO board says all that needs to be said of your "situation" as a scientist.

      So vermit, when are you going to show us YOUR publications?
      ##################

      <<So vermit, when are you going to show us YOUR publications?>>

      When are you going to show us your dead husbands publications. You wouldn't even tell us any of the books in that gigantic "library" of his you were bragging about.

    • You pay taxes? why?
      The guy is a freakin bigot! And still in congress!
      'founding member of the Congressional Black Caucus'
      Why did Wesley Snipes go to jail?
      WASHINGTON – Rep. Charles Rangel, the most powerful tax-writing lawmaker in Congress and a 34-year veteran of Capitol Hill, knowingly accepted Caribbean trips from a corporation in violation of House rules, the House Ethics Committee ruled Thursday, The Associated Press has learned.
      Rep. Charlie Rangel's admonishment by the House ethics panel does not disqualify him from leading the chamber's influential tax-writing committee, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Sunday, even as she acknowledged the conflict doesn't pass the smell test.
      ‘The Absent-Minded Chairman
      Charlie Rangel wins the personal lottery.
      When normal people happen to "find" their own money, it might mean a twenty left in a winter coat, or discovering change beneath the sofa cushions. But if you're Charlie Rangel, it means doubling your net worth.
      This voyage of personal financial discovery brings Mr. Rangel's net worth for 2007 to somewhere between $1.028 million and $2.495 million, while his previous statement came in at $516,015 and $1.316 million.
      When you're a powerful Congressman and working diligently to increase tax rates to pay for President Obama's health-care plan, That would be the one at the federal credit union with a balance somewhere between $250,001 and maybe as high as $500,000. And when you're crunched for time and pulling together bills to pass in a rush, we guess, too, that you might overlook several other investment accounts, even if some of them are sizable, such as the ones Mr. Rangel missed at JP Morgan, Merrill Lynch, Oppenheimer and BlackRock.
      Oh, and those vacant properties in Glassboro, in southern Jersey? Everybody in Manhattan tries not to think much about New Jersey, so those lots and their as-much-as-$15,000 value must also have slipped down the memory hole. (The New York Post reported yesterday that Mr. Rangel failed to pay property taxes for two of the lots, according to the county clerk's office.)
      The Chairman probably isn't doing a lot of dining at KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell or Long John Silver's, either, which may explain why he didn't disclose the $1,001 to $15,000 in stock he owns in Yum Brands, the conglomerate that runs those chain restaurants. Compared to his undisclosed portfolio stake in PepsiCo—$15,001 to $50,000—that's practically a rounding error.
      All lawmakers amend their financial reports from time to time, though rarely are the errors this extensive. Via email, a Rangel spokesman declined to offer details about how the errors occurred, noting that "Once the Ethics Committee completes its work, then we can answer questions in more detail." He added that Mr. Rangel is now "confident that his records have been subjected to an exhaustive and complete review, and that the amendments accurately reflect his financial interests."
      Among other issues, Mr. Rangel is currently under investigation regarding his use of four rent-stabilized apartments at New York City's tony Lenox Terrace and soliciting donations with his official letterhead for the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Service at City College of New York, which was itself built with a $1.9 million earmark. Yet another part of the probe is his failure to report $75,000 in income from a rental villa at the beachfront Punta Cana Yacht Club, in the Dominican Republic. I’m on a free ride!

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