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  • pilodialcyst pilodialcyst Nov 17, 2012 7:39 AM Flag

    The Deniers are very quiet today - Morning Edition

    Ooops. Check out the NOAA's latest State of the Climate report:

    The average temperature across land and ocean surfaces during October was 14.63°C (58.23°F). This is 0.63°C (1.13°F) above the 20th century average and ties with 2008 as the fifth warmest October on record.

    The record warmest October occurred in 2003 and the record coldest October occurred in 1912. This is the 332nd consecutive month with an above-average temperature. The last below-average month was February 1985. The last October with a below-average temperature was 1976.

    That means that anyone out there 27 (and two-thirds!) or younger has never lived through a month that saw global temperatures dip below average. For what it's worth, the warmest October on record came in 2003 and the coldest occurred way back in 1912.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    • NASA: Antarctic sea ice grows – but the climate’s still changing

      A NASA study has reported a rise in Antarctic sea ice. For cherry picking climate change deniers, it may be a neat counterweight to Arctic ice melt but, as the NASA study shows, Antarctic ice expansion is another worrying trend in global climate change.

      The principal finding of the new NASA study, conducted in conjunction with the British Antarctic Study, relates to a significant growth in Antarctic sea ice drift caused by changes in the wind currents around Antarctica observed over the past twenty years. Changes in wind currents can arise due to an alteration in underlying sea temperatures and it is here that the rapid ice loss seen in the Arctic Ocean may be reconciled with what would appear, at first glance, to be conflicting data from the Antarctic. In mid-October Digital Journal reported on the record ice melt of Arctic sea ice observed by NASA which now has comparative data on the Arctic polar ice cap dating back almost 35 years.
      ....

      The NASA/British Antarctic Survey report emphasises that it focused on sea ice flows and formation around the Antarctic which has to be distinguished from the land-based Antarctic Ice Sheet, glacial ice, which continues to lose volume. Although not touched on by the report, the wind induced changes in sea ice formation around the Antarctic could result in some glacial ice which would otherwise be ‘locked-in’ by sea ice, tending to calf icebergs which might not otherwise have floated off from the continental ice sheet. Elsewhere, expansion of sea ice could have as yet unforeseen localised effects on the climate.
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      I'd imagine that Arctic sea ice melt coupled with Antarctic sea ice melt, considering currents and tides, will significantly impact the salinity of the world oceans long before a rise in sea levels and hurricanes make living on the coast untenable.

      The earth's surface area is over 70% water...97% of which is saltwater.

      99% of major trade centers are coastal cities: sea ports of trade include cities like NYC, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Tokyo, Beijing,Shanghai, Perth, London, Miami, Mumbai, Calcutta, Bangkok, Jarkata, Guangzhou, Seattle, etc. (assuming climate change isn't a liberal conspiracy)

      How does the Republican denial of climate change make any sense? Haha, that was a trick question because it doesn't. Republicans hate science.
      National Security: for additional laughs, Republicans tried to pass a bill limiting security funding to US sea ports. And Mitt Romney claimed he would cut the FEMA budget...despite Katrina and Sandy.

 
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