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  • jpaulgettytoo jpaulgettytoo Nov 20, 2012 3:17 PM Flag

    End Social Security for the Rich

    SS was set up to protect the poor from starvation not to indulge the rich. Those who argue they are entitled, offer the same specious arguement that the Arabs want.Which is for Israel to reduce their territory for the Palestinians. Just because the rich contributed can be compared to the middle east countries with land mass hundreds of times that of Israel blaming Israel for the displacement of Arabs. By the same token, those in the top 5% should not accept SS because it was not intended to make them richer and only adds to the national debt.

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    • They paid into it like everybody else. It's the laws fault.

    • So vermit acknowledges the fact that the federal government takes 15%+ of ones income on pretense of repayment but in truth, knows that it will not have to repay?

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      I am not Verm, retardess.

      Meanwhile, why don't you yell about how unfair it is to pay homeowners insurance but never collect unless the house burns down?

    • Spoken like a true socialist. Also, where did you get that figure of 5%? You have got to be one of those "takers" who would change your opinion if you ever became a "maker"

    • "Which is for Israel to reduce their territory for the Palestinians. Just because the rich contributed can be compared to the middle east countries with land mass hundreds of times that of Israel blaming Israel for the displacement of Arabs. By the same token, those in the top 5% should not accept SS because it was not intended to make them richer and only adds to the national debt."

      Talked about messed up jpaul. You have yours turned upside down and inside out. Israel has not been reducing "their" territory for Palestinians. Rather vice versa. Palestinians have been reducing theirs for Israel, by force and theft. Most of the current inhabitants of Israel hand NO LAND in Palestine or Israel. They were Europeans and Russians!! They came in where Christians, Muslims, and Jews all lived in harmony, and proceeded to wage war to drive the majority Muslims out, literally stealing their land and homes and orchards, forcing the Palestinians into concentration camps.

      Israel is a fascist state and fitting that definition, is a JEWISH state, by design. Arabs can only be minimally tolerated there IF AND ONLY IF, they are a minority and cannot affect a so-called democratic election in any way. Christians are a small minority and thus, their persecution has not been as great, but it exists none the less, contrary to the unending propaganda that has been fed to you.

      Gaza is no different than the ghettos of Poland or the concentration camps, created by Hitler, other than being far larger and far worse. It is worse than the "colored" towns we had once upon a time in this country. The same was done to blacks in South Africa.

      You cannot renounce Hitler or apartheid South Africa and yet, support Israel for doing exactly the same.

      Either you believe all people are equal and a government should represent the people living under its domain, or you believe in fascism and privilege to select races and the right of those select races to rule over the inferior and commit genocide as suits them.

      You cannot stand on both sides of the fence.

    • Doing what you propose would destroy broad-based political support for SS. It would shift it from a popular entitlement program to an unpopular welfare program, and turn Fox and the Contard shout machine into raging lunatics against it.

      To keep it solvent, they will likely means-test benefits at the high end, raise retirement ages and raise the cap on payroll withholding, but it would be politically dumb to take benefits away from the rich entirely.

    • "SS was set up to protect the poor from starvation not to indulge the rich. "

      No it was not jpaul. Learn some facts for once in your life.

 
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