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  • happygambler34 happygambler34 Nov 29, 2012 10:55 AM Flag

    When will the war start?

    It started in 1096!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • "It started in 1096!!!!!!!"

      Ah, yes, 1096. Among the things that happened that year:

      May 18th - Crusaders massacre Jews of Worm
      May 30 - Crusaders massacre Jews of Mainz
      Mid-June: Crusaders massacre Jews of Cologne
      Jun 25th - 1st Crusade slaughter Jews of Werelinghofen Germany

      So nice of Cumgobbler to fondly remember Christain massacres of Jews!

      • 4 Replies to al.gore22
      • Nobel Peace Prize laureates have called for an international boycott of Israel following the regime’s recent deadly onslaught against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

        A group of Nobel Peace Prize winners, prominent artists, and activists urged an international military boycott of Israel in a letter published on Wednesday .

        “Horrified at the latest round of Israeli aggression against the 1.5 million Palestinians in the besieged and occupied Gaza Strip and conscious of the impunity that has enabled this new chapter in Israel's decades-old violations of international law and Palestinian rights, we believe there is an urgent need for international action towards a mandatory, comprehensive military embargo against Israel,” the letter read.

        The 52 signatories, including renowned US academic Noam Chomsky, and Irish Nobel Peace Prize winner Mairead Maguire, also accused the United States and the European Union of “complicity” by selling weapons to Israel.

        "While the United States has been the largest sponsor of Israel, supplying billions of dollars of advanced military hardware every year, the role of the European Union must not go unnoticed, in particular its hefty subsidies to Israel's military complex through its research programmes,” the letter said.

        “Such a measure has been subject to several UN resolutions and is similar to the arms embargo imposed against apartheid South Africa in the past,” the letter added.

        Over 160 Palestinians, including women and children, were killed and about 1,200 others were injured in the Israeli attacks on the besieged coastal enclave from November 14 to 21, when Egypt announced that the Israeli regime and the Palestinian resistance movement Hamas had reached a ceasefire agreement.

        In retaliation for the eight-day Israeli offensive, the Palestinian resistance fighters fired rockets and missiles into Israeli cities, killing at least five Israelis.

        However, in violation of the truce, Israeli troops killed a Palestinian and injured 19 others in the town of Khuza’a near the city of Khan Yunis in southern Gaza Strip on November 23.

      • SEATTLE -- Local lawyers say video of an alleged beating by a Seattle police officer is so explosive that if released, it would immediately go viral.

        They claim that is the reason Seattle police are keeping the video hidden from public view. As a result, they and their client are suing the department.

        Back in October, Leo Etherly was bruised and black-eyed. As for how he got that way, Seattle police dash cam video could tell that story. Except police won't allow Etherly to have a copy, and they won't allow Etherly's attorney to share his copy with the public.

        Here's how Etherly tells it: "I was motionless, and he (the officer) was still punching me and says something to the effect of, 'You effing idiot.'"

        Witness video shows Etherly's face after he is already handcuffed on the ground.

        Store surveillance video indistinctly shows Etherly on the hood of a police cruiser.

        "At that point, (the officer) throws a tremendously fast fist to Leo Etherly's eye, causing permanent partial blindness," said attorney James Egan.

        But the best video of Etherly's Oct. 6 arrest would be from the police officer's own dashboard camera.

        Etherly says he was first choked then knocked out, and didn't realize the extent of what happened until he saw the dash cam video.

        "When it happened, I understood I got mistreated. But when I seen it, it hit me. It really hit me like, 'Wow!"' he said.

        "Clearly shows choking and punching for no reason," said first amendment attorney Jim Lobsenz, who is also representing Etherly. "It's not exactly in the same realm as the Rodney King beating, which went on and on and on, but it's bad."

        As Etherly's defense attorney, Egan has obtained the dash cam video. But the attorney can't share that footage as the SPD has warned him it could cost him his license. And police will not allow Etherly to have a copy.

        "You don't maintain public trust by doing what the police chief is doing, which is hiding this video," said Egan.

        Etherly was stopped in connection with a hit-and-run crash several blocks away. Seattle police told KOMO News Etherly was uncooperative and spat on the arresting officers; however, King County prosecutors have declined to file any charges.

        So nearly seven weeks after the incident, why can't Etherly get a public copy of his own dash cam video?

        Even the city's own policy says, "…any person who is shown in police dash camera video has an absolute right to request and receive video depicting their incident at any time."

        Lobsenz says the city is stalling.

        "They don't want this video to get to you guys," he said.

        Etherly says his video needs to be made public.

        "'Cause it needs to stop," he said. "I could have been dead."

        Late Monday afternoon, Seattle police released a brief statement saying that Egan has already received a copy of the dash cam video, but will get another copy through the Public Records Act when the department's process is completed.

        In spite of KOMO's questions, SPD made no mention of the restrictions on the first video or when this second video would be released.

      • 1096? Not according to wiki.

        "Persecution of Christians can be traced both historically and in the current century. Early Christians were persecuted for their faith, at the hands of both Jews from whose religion Christianity arose, and the Roman Empire which controlled much of the land early Christianity was distributed across. This continued from the 1st century until the early 4th, when the religion was legalized by the Edict of Milan, eventually becoming the State church of the Roman Empire. Michael Gaddis wrote:

        The Christian experience of violence during the pagan persecutions shaped the ideologies and practices that drove further religious conflicts over the course of the fourth and fifth centuries... The formative experience of martyrdom and persecution determined the ways in which later Christians would both use and experience violence under the Christian empire. Discourses of martyrdom and persecution formed the symbolic language through which Christians represented, justified, or denounced the use of violence."[1]

        Christian missionaries as well as the neophytes that they converted to Christianity have been the target of persecution, many times to the point of being martyred for their faith. There is also a history of individual Christian denominations suffering persecution at the hands of other Christians under the charge of heresy, particularly during the 16th century Protestant Reformation.

        In the 20th century, Christians have been persecuted by Muslim groups, and by atheistic states such as the USSR and North Korea. Currently (as of 2012), as estimated by the Christian missionary organisation Open Doors UK, an estimated 100 million Christians face persecution, particularly in Muslim dominated countries like, Iran and Saudi Arabia.[2][3] Christians in Pakistan are reportedly being subjected to a genocide by Pakistani Taliban.[4][5][6] They also face persecution in atheistic states like North Korea in which there is no religious freedom.[7] A recent study, cited by the Vatican, reported that 75 out of every 100 people killed due to religious hatred were Christian.[8][9]

      • What happenned in 805?

 
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