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  • happygambler34 happygambler34 Dec 7, 2012 10:36 AM Flag

    Obama’s Epic Fiscal Cliff Flip Flop

    The fiscal cliff is rapidly approaching, and no one can seem to agree on a possible solution. The White House is calling the Republican plan “magic beans and fairy dust”, but there plan isn’t any better.

    While speaking to the press, Jay Carney said: ” It’s a couple sentences — it’s not a plan to say that we’re going to magically increase revenues through loophole closures and deduction caps with not a single element of specificity. So we don’t know who pays, we don’t know what we’re talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. It’s magic beans and fairy dust.”

    Oddly enough, In 2011 President Obama said, “What we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking taxes — tax rates — but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could have lowered rates generally while broadening the base.”

    In other words: magic beans and fairy dust.

    Many Republicans are now saying they need to negotiate in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. Conservatives don’t agree with compromising the values of conservatism, they have thought about suggesting letting the President get everything he wants so when it all comes crashing down he has no one to blame with himself. But as they pointed out, he’ll just ask for more until he has someone else to blame.

    “They’ll just make up new stuff until you say you oppose it and they’ll blame it on that. It’s always moving the goal posts. The point for the President has nothing with the fiscal cliff, nothing to do with raising revenue, and it has little with raising taxes on the rich. What it has to do he wants to vilify the other side and he comes in as the hero,” Stu said. “I don’t think he has any intent whatsoever to make any deal.”

    It's pointed out that if the Bush tax cuts expire and people are unhappy, he’ll get to negotiate new tax cuts will become the Obama tax cuts.

    It's predicted “It’s all Republican’s fault, and then he’ll have the biggest tax cut in American history” .

    With no one offering any solutions in Washington, it becomes clearer every day that people have to take care of there own families and communities. They need to be prepared for tough economic times ahead, and they need to be prepared to take care of their own needs because the federal government will be out of control.

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    • the flip-flop is because he figured out that cutting "loopholes" (which aren't what the msm says they are) hurts a few of the people that voted for him (not many since most won't be impacted by the expiration of the current tax rates anyway since their only "job" is to pick the welfare checks from the mail-box).

      but in the high real estate value areas (all "blue") where people are paid more solely to keep them even, they are looking at huge tax increases if the so-called "loopholes" for home mortgage interest and charitable deductions go away on top of rate increases...

      I suspect the charities are screaming as well...nice job if you can get it and I think we all know which side of the political spectrum gets the bulk of their money.

      btw, that ignore button really does work (other than the replacement ID's but our "cast of rocks" are unable to disguise their posts so it's just another click.

      • 2 Replies to teejk1
      • sandale111@bellsouth.net sandale111 Dec 7, 2012 4:19 PM Flag

        Newbie "btw, that ignore button really does work "

        If so, then how come you were responding to all the people you supposedly had on ignore?

      • hurts a few of the people that voted for him (not many since most won't be impacted by the expiration of the current tax rates anyway since their only "job" is to pick the welfare checks from the mail-box).

        but in the high real estate value areas (all "blue") where people are paid more solely to keep them even, they are looking at huge tax increases if the so-called "loopholes" for home mortgage interest and charitable deductions go away on top of rate increases...

        ***

        First NewbiePolack "guesses" that most Obama voters are on welfare. Then, in the very next paragraph, NewbiePolack informs us that in "blue" (predominantly Democratic) states, people earn high salaries to afford their expensive houses.

        So apparently Obama supporters are highly-paid people with expensive houses, who somehow are also on welfare.

        I can't make up this kind of stupidity. Even for a Newbie and a NewbiePolack, this is stupidity raised to an art form. Baaaaa ha ha ha ha.

    • there (sic) plan isn’t any better.

      Cumgobbler approvingly quotes Glenn Beck, a drunk, obese, drug-addicted, multiple divorcee who is so illiterate he doesn't even know the different between "their" and "there."

      The #$%$ Club is now in session!!

 
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