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  • pilodialcyst pilodialcyst Dec 8, 2012 11:01 AM Flag

    The Deniers (Deniars for droolers) are very quiet today

    From the Arctic Report Card 2012:

    "This warm air from Arctic waters has temperatures shooting up on the adjoining shores (see for instance air temps during the first half of this month on Vize Island in the Kara Sea), sometimes up to 10-20 ºC more than the long-term average, and also causes more rain and snow to fall. This is a regular feature now, a sure sign that the Arctic climate is changing as we speak. And for a large part because of Anthropogenic Global Warming."

    Sentiment: Hold

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    • Mayor "Bloomingdale" on Sandy and AGW causes of severe storms--

      Will global warming bring storm barriers to New York Harbor? Bloomberg and Cuomo blame Hurricane Sandy on climate change


      New York governor Andrew Cuomo and mayor Michael Bloomberg both pointed to climate change as the culprit for Sandy's ravages as they addressed the scale of the destruction on Tuesday morning.

      'Anyone who says there's not a dramatic change in weather patterns, I think is denying reality.'

      Bloomberg echoed the sentiment, saying: 'What is clear is that the storms we've experienced in the last year or so around this country and around the world are much more severe than before.

      So did we have man made AGW the when the 1938 Long Island Express?

      September 21, 1938.
      That morning a New York Times editorial entitled "Hurricane" concluded, "Every year an average of three such whirlwinds sweep the tropical North Atlantic between June and November. In 1933, there was an all-time record of twenty. If New York and the rest of the world have been so well informed about the cyclone, it is because of an admirable organized meteorological service" (Allen, 1976).

      Except for Charlie Pierce, a junior forecaster in the U.S. Weather Bureau who predicted the storm but was overruled by the chief forecaster, the Weather Bureau experts and the general public never saw it coming. Later that day, the greatest weather disaster ever to hit Long Island and New England struck in the form of a category 3 hurricane. Long Island, New York and New England were changed forever by the Long Island Express.

      * Peak Steady Winds - 121 mph

      * Peak Gust - 186 mph at Blue Hill Observatory, MA.

      * Lowest Pressure - 27.94 in (946.2 mb) at Bellport, NY

      * Peak Storm Surge - 17 ft. above normal high tide (RI)

      * Peak Wave Heights - 50 ft. at Gloucester, MA

      * Deaths - 700 (600 in New England)

      * Homeless - 63,000

      * Homes, Buildings Destroyed - 8,900

      * Boats Lost - 3,300

      * Trees Destroyed - 2 Billion (approx.)

      * Cost - $620 million (1938)

      • 1 Reply to happygambler34
      • sandale111 Dec 8, 2012 2:15 PM Flag


        People have been dying since around the beginning of Humanity. So why then do you blame the deaths of the diplomats in Bengazi on Obama, or even on terrorists?

        I also note, Your Senileness, that by definition, nothing could have been happening before "the beginning of time"; and indeed, climate change on Earth could not have been happening since the "beginning of time" being that for billions of years the Earth did not exist.

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