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  • btdt100 btdt100 Jun 14, 2013 2:18 PM Flag

    For Vermit and Greedy - One Myth Debunked

    Haaretz

    New Israeli film debunks myth that Nazis made soap from Jews

    "Soaps," a new film by director Eyal Ballas, searches for the root of the myth that Germans used the bodies of Jews to manufacture soap.

    Contemporary historians think the Nazis did not produce soap on an industrial scale using dead human bodies, a position shared by Yad Vashem. But the myth continues to hold sway with the big segments of the public.

    The movie shows that in many places in Israel and the world, people light memorial candles beside soaps they believe were created from the bodies of Jews. Chemical analyses show they are actually made of vegetable materials.

    The soap myth dates all the way back to World War I, when Germans were first rumored to be turning bodies into the stuff. During World War II, SS guards often tormented concentration camp prisoners by threatening to turn them into soap. The rumor gained further credence when at the end of the war the Soviet Red Army discovered a horrifying laboratory near Gdansk, Poland, with body parts alongside soap made from humans.

    Some experts believe the institute served to test the feasibility of creating soap from human fat but never reached the stage of industrial production.

    Yehuda Bauer, Israel's leading Holocaust historian, says it is more likely that the soap was a byproduct of the decay of the bodies and that it was used to clean the institute on local initiative.

    Either way, the institute did not use the bodies of Jews, but those of Poles and Germans from the not-far-away Stutthof concentration camp.

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    • Some experts believe the institute served to test the feasibility of creating soap from human fat but never reached the stage of industrial production.
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      ....not industrial...only R&D?

      Oh, well that's ok then. Is that what you're trying to say? Are you really stupid? It was only a feasibility test??

      You sure it wasn't "just" gypsies...

    • "Haaretz

      New Israeli film debunks myth that Nazis made soap from Jews"

      Rodentess, you previous claimed the Holocaust was a myth perpetrated as part of an Israeli conspiracy. So why is the largest newspaper in Isarael debunking the soap claim?

      "The soap myth dates all the way back to World War I, when Germans were first rumored to be turning bodies into the stuff. During World War II, SS guards often tormented concentration camp prisoners by threatening to turn them into soap. The rumor gained further credence when at the end of the war the Soviet Red Army discovered a horrifying laboratory near Gdansk, Poland, with body parts alongside soap made from humans."

      Why were body parts scattered around? Your previous claim was that it was typhus and starvation that killed people in concentration camps, that there was no intentional murder.

      "Yehuda Bauer, Israel's leading Holocaust historian, says it is more likely that the soap was a byproduct of the decay of the bodies and that it was used to clean the institute on local initiative."

      Rodentess, you claimed the Holocaust was a complete lie. So why are you citing (secondhand) Bauer, someone you must think is a blatant liar?

      • 1 Reply to general_vermowitz28
      • Vermit, most disputes of the Holocaust myths you promote as facts, are in fact, Jewish (whatever that really means). Same is true of the fantastical stories. I never claimed it to be a "conspiracy" but rather would liken those full of the eyewitness tale tales to the hysteria that beset many in the Salem witch trials.

        As to body parts "scattered" around a lab, you most certainly can be my guest to believe Joseph Stalin. I'll decline however and maintain that he was one of the best at propaganda. As to Baur, I merely shared with you the haaretz news piece. You again can be my guest and believe that the Dead bodies of Jews magically turned into soap and that the Germans then used those bodies to CLEAN their laboratory. I will take that as my laugh for the day.

        Speaking of typhus and tuberculosis, I caught a piece recently on NPR discussing a new strain of tuberculosis (which was the second in number as cause of death in the camps to typhus). For some reason, this new stain which is drug resistant, is occurring in Eastern Europe/western Russia at 10 times the rate it is in the rest of the world. So who will you blame this time for all the resulting deaths? Oh wait. The Jews from there moved to the us so no one has to be blamed and the truth can be told. OMG.

    • None of this actually debunks the claim Nazis made soap from Jewish bodies. Indeed, even today soap is made from three basic ingredients: animal fat, water and ash - that last of which likely accounts for the "vegetable material" you cite.

 
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