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  • conservatives_r_tools conservatives_r_tools Jan 3, 2014 10:41 AM Flag

    "There is No Longer Any Credible Scientific Debate About The Basic Facts: Our World Continues to Warm, with the Last Decade the Hottest in Modern Records"

    "There is No Longer Any Credible Scientific Debate About The Basic Facts: Our World Continues to Warm, with the Last Decade the Hottest in Modern Records"

    "There is No Longer Any Credible Scientific Debate About The Basic Facts: Our World Continues to Warm, with the Last Decade the Hottest in Modern Records"

    "There is No Longer Any Credible Scientific Debate About The Basic Facts: Our World Continues to Warm, with the Last Decade the Hottest in Modern Records"

    A Republican Case for Climate Action

    By WILLIAM D. RUCKELSHAUS, LEE M. THOMAS, WILLIAM K. REILLY and CHRISTINE TODD WHITMAN

    "EACH of us took turns over the past 43 years running the Environmental Protection Agency. We served Republican presidents, but we have a message that transcends political affiliation: the United States must move now on substantive steps to curb climate change, at home and internationally.

    There is no longer any credible scientific debate about the basic facts: our world continues to warm, with the last decade the hottest in modern records, and the deep ocean warming faster than the earth’s atmosphere. Sea level is rising. Arctic Sea ice is melting years faster than projected."

    Nothing funnier than 5 former republican EPA Directors making fool out of cpwrguy_99's claims.

    lol.

    That has to hurt.

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    • jj27713 You should email all 5 of the republican former EPA Directors that say Climate Change is real and happening now and tell them you don't believe them.

      lol.

      Let us know how they respond.....

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      • C_R_L,
        There is no-one, not conservatives, nor liberals, nor God-fearing types, nor pygmies, nor scientists, nor lab rats, nor any sentient being that should ever say climate change isn't happening. It always happens. With or without our influence. Always.
        What you are afraid to commit to is saying significant human caused climate change. Why? Because it is almost non-quantifiable nor separable from natural climate cycles. Yes, Really. That's why the most involved scientists continue to argue to differences in even the very numbers of the global temperature and the CO2 forcing. It is apparently so small that data is regularly provided showing decent arguments from both sides. There is no obvious, or irrefutable, data showing that humans do or do not cause significant 'climate change' that is distinguishable from natural variations.

        Unfortunately, many people, including yourself, have improperly reacted to the emotional side of the issue and avoided proper consideration of the factual side. Unless, of course, you are struggling mightily to bring the world under one world governance or your entire salary depends on you getting published in the alarmist journals... Then all rationale and logic is thrown out the window.

        You are an alarmist. Face it. Your purpose is to scare people with gloom and doom instead of show them the facts and allow reasoned thought and action to occur.

    • Of course it continues to warm. By all evidence we are still warming out of the Little Ice Age. But we are still not as warm as the Medieval Period, The Roman Period or the Holocene Maximum.

      So what? Are we finished warming from the LIA? Will we be warmer that the Holocene maximum? Are we just about to fall into a major Ice Age?

      Can you please tell us what the optimum temperature for the Earth is supposed to be?
      Can you tell us what the optimum atmospheric CO2 concentration should be?
      Can you tell us exactly why there is ZERO correlation between CO2 and the 'global' temperatures the last 15 years?
      Can you tell us why ALL 70 global temperature models the IPCC uses were way high and could not predict the current temperatures or the temperature plateau over the last 15 years?
      Can you tell us why the global ice extent is above the average of the last 30 years?
      Can you tell us why all the predictions of higher cyclonic activity, higher rainfall, troposphere 'hot spot' and higher droughts have NOT shown up in the global databases for same?

      Until you can answer some of the most basic questions (don't worry...the real scientists can't either) then you can not credibly spout AGW #$%$ and you just come off like a useful puppet of the misguided MSM/United Nations/IPCC warmist community. All bluster, but no rationale...

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      • rodentologist@bellsouth.net rodentologist Feb 4, 2014 12:05 PM Flag

        continued

        "Can you tell us why all the predictions of higher cyclonic activity, higher rainfall, troposphere 'hot spot' and higher droughts have NOT shown up in the global databases for same?"

        I suspect by "global databases" you mean "The Rush Limbaugh Show"Severe hurricane activity has increased a lot . I don't know either way about the other things, but none of them are definitively related to global warming anyway.

        " Until you can answer some of the most basic questions (don't worry...the real scientists can't either) then you can not credibly spout AGW #$%$ and you just come off like a useful puppet of the misguided MSM/United Nations/IPCC warmist community. "

        As expected, the idiot is a lunatic.

      • rodentologist@bellsouth.net rodentologist Feb 4, 2014 12:04 PM Flag

        "Of course it continues to warm. By all evidence we are still warming out of the Little Ice Age"

        We are warning at a rate around 900 percent faster than we were previously warming out of the last ice age

        " But we are still not as warm as the Medieval Period, "

        Yes, we are. The medieval period was not even all that hot--it was hot in Europe, but not globally. But even if it was hotter then, that is irrelevant, you dunce. There were more Jews in 1945 than there were 4000 years earlier. Does that mean there was not a man-made change in the Jewish population by Hitler? There is a reason why you did poorly in math, and it is not because your teachers were "liberals".

        "Can you please tell us what the optimum temperature for the Earth is supposed to be"

        Can you tell me what the optimal color of a car should be?

        "Can you tell us what the optimum atmospheric CO2 concentration should be?"

        Can you tell me what the optimal music is?

        "Can you tell us exactly why there is ZERO correlation between CO2 and the 'global' temperatures the last 15 years?"

        Dunce does not know what correlation means. CO2 levels have been correlated positively with temperature over the past 15 years. Furthermore a lack of correlation would not be particularly meaningful anyway-- the effects of CO2 are small over short time periods. Over ;long time periods it is large.

        "Can you tell us why ALL 70 global temperature models the IPCC uses were way high and could not predict the current temperatures or the temperature plateau over the last 15 years?"

        I doubt many were way high. The level of warming was in the range of most models.

        "Can you tell us why the global ice extent is above the average of the last 30 years?"

        Ice extent is around the LOWEST in 30 years.

        continued

    • 100% true.

      lol.

    • "There is No Longer Any Credible Scientific Debate About The Basic Facts"

      That part is true. The rest of your story crumbles. Btw, forecasted game temp for GB vs SF on Sunday is -8F (might be colder if the arctic mass predicted for Monday comes in earlier). We are used to the January "cold snaps" around here but after a brutal December, it is getting old. Global warming is a joke.

    • 40 million Frenchmen can be wrong, and any quote that includes Ruckelshaus is suspect: he caused DDT to be banned despite the scientific evidence supporting its safety and efficacy. Clearly, one of your kind of guys, fool.

 
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