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  • EM_995 EM_995 Aug 6, 1999 12:01 PM Flag

    fakey

    thank you for that warm welcome back. I will now
    give my stock tip of the day. DOLE Foods (DOL) is in a
    technical breakout. Heavy insider buying. Up BIG today
    after bottoming out at 25.

    As for MO, it is
    basing. It has support at 35 look for it to bottom out at
    35.

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    • ##############
      Re: Bankruptcy Rules
      by: rainforest982000
      Long-Term Sentiment: Buy 10/21/03 02:57 am
      Msg: 315653 of 315662

      YOu should also learn the rules of bankruptcy.
      These suits are not about smokers health, if the state settlement is to be believed.
      Most of the money already budgeted to the states, since the settlement, HAS NOT BEEN USED FOR SMOKERS HEALTH.
      Only one state has used it's money received for anything like the amount that was originally agreed to by the states.The state is W. Virginia-it some for smokers health.
      Most of the other states don't care about smokers health; but theu love the money for general services.
      Also, in a bankruptcy, the bankruptcy judge will give the money to the bondholders and general creditors.
      States would fight any attempt for cigarette companies to go into Chap.11, and especially complete bankruptcy, since they wouldn't receive their yearly billions.
      In any event, unhealthy smokers would be the last people that would get anything, if the future is anything like the past.
      -So far, the states have received a lot,lawyers a lot- one received enough to buy (for about 150M) a professional sports team, and sick and dying smokers almost nothing.
      These suits are about greed- not smokers health.
      #######################

      <<These suits are not about smokers health, if the state settlement is to be believed>>

      Idiot, the ppeople suing the tobacco industry did indeed intend it for health purposes. Do you understand that artorneys general do not control state legislatures?

      <<Most of the other states don't care about smokers health;...These suits are about greed- not smokers health. >>

      The suits were not about smokers health, nor should they have been. Ever here of "personal responsinility", you right-wing leftist crackpot? Smokers are not the heroes in any of this.

      <<So far, the states have received a lot,lawyers a lot- one received enough to buy (for about 150M)>>

      They are the ones who should receive ALL the money. The suits were about smoking costing states huge amounts of money. Why should smokers, who were part of the problem, be the beneficiaries???? The states were the victims, and the trial lawyers were providing inportant services to the victims.

    • ###################3
      Re: Bankruptcy Rules
      by: hyenas_need_love 10/21/03 12:12 am
      Msg: 315652 of 315661

      Care to give us an update on this prediction, mister rodentologist?
      <<If Mo becomes bankrupt in the near future, then it will likely still be possible to sell cigarettes. But that does not mean that you will not lose all or most of your money. Most likely your stock will be seized to help pay the dead and dying smokers. Creditors often take partial or full possession during bankruptcy.
      MOrons should learn the rules for bankruptcy--it probably will apply to you.>>
      ###########

      <<Care to give us an update on this prediction, mister rodentologist?>>

      Prediction appears to be correct, you idiot.

    • Re: Bankruptcy Rules
      by: rainforest982000
      Long-Term Sentiment: Buy 10/21/03 02:57 am
      Msg: 315653 of 315657

      YOu should also learn the rules of bankruptcy.
      These suits are not about smokers health, if the state settlement is to be believed.
      Most of the money already budgeted to the states, since the settlement, HAS NOT BEEN USED FOR SMOKERS HEALTH.
      Only one state has used it's money received for anything like the amount that was originally agreed to by the states.The state is W. Virginia-it some for smokers health.
      Most of the other states don't care about smokers health; but theu love the money for general services.
      Also, in a bankruptcy, the bankruptcy judge will give the money to the bondholders and general creditors.
      States would fight any attempt for cigarette companies to go into Chap.11, and especially complete bankruptcy, since they wouldn't receive their yearly billions.
      In any event, unhealthy smokers would be the last people that would get anything, if the future is anything like the past.
      -So far, the states have received a lot,lawyers a lot- one received enough to buy (for about 150M) a professional sports team, and sick and dying smokers almost nothing.
      These suits are about greed- not smokers health.
      -----------------------------------------
      >>>States would fight any attempt for cigarette companies to go into Chap.11, and especially complete bankruptcy, since they wouldn't receive their yearly billions.<<<

      dumb MOrons who thought Clinton was corrupt because he was the recipient of a hummer in the "People House", and because his VP accepted donations from priests who were asian, constantly hope for corruption of the most MASSIVE scale, to save the most corrupt corporation in america.

      If you guys were at all honest, you would accept corruption of all kinds
      Instead you all carry a kind of moralistic corruption not unlike the mafia scumballs

    • YOu should also learn the rules of bankruptcy.
      These suits are not about smokers health, if the state settlement is to be believed.
      Most of the money already budgeted to the states, since the settlement, HAS NOT BEEN USED FOR SMOKERS HEALTH.
      Only one state has used it's money received for anything like the amount that was originally agreed to by the states.The state is W. Virginia-it some for smokers health.
      Most of the other states don't care about smokers health; but theu love the money for general services.
      Also, in a bankruptcy, the bankruptcy judge will give the money to the bondholders and general creditors.
      States would fight any attempt for cigarette companies to go into Chap.11, and especially complete bankruptcy, since they wouldn't receive their yearly billions.
      In any event, unhealthy smokers would be the last people that would get anything, if the future is anything like the past.
      -So far, the states have received a lot,lawyers a lot- one received enough to buy (for about 150M) a professional sports team, and sick and dying smokers almost nothing.
      These suits are about greed- not smokers health.

    • Care to give us an update on this prediction, mister rodentologist?

      <<If Mo becomes bankrupt in the near future, then it will likely still be possible to sell cigarettes. But that does not mean that you will not lose all or most of your money. Most likely your stock will be seized to help pay the dead and dying smokers. Creditors often take partial or full possession during bankruptcy.

      MOrons should learn the rules for bankruptcy--it probably will apply to you.>>

    • Me<<<So? It also has greater potential
      liabilities. Duh!>>>

      EMOron <<The
      contribution of income taxes, sales taxes and excise taxes
      from big MO to big brother is gigantic. The federal
      and state government does not want that to
      disappear.>>

      On the one hand the MOrons hate Clinton for wanting
      to destroy MO, and on the other hand they inssit
      that the "government" would never want to destroy MO.
      also, MOron does not seen to realize that rthe Engle
      case has nothing to do with the governement. To MOrons
      all their problems are "the government". What does
      MOron think "the government" will do to collect those
      precious tax dollrs--bail out MO for X billion dollars and
      then collect X billion dollars
      back?

      Me<<I sure was laughing. Ha ha
      ha!>>>

      EMOron <<I will be laughing after Phase
      II>>

      I suppose you will"stake your reputaion on it" BTW,
      arte you deviating from the party line? Aren't you
      supposed to say something about winning on
      appeal?

      Me<<That's probably why youi made so much money off
      it.>>>>

      Me<<MOron still does not understand that those things are
      likely irrelevant.>>>

      EMOron
      <<Those facts are very relevant in deciding damages. You
      will learn that at some
      point.>>

      Important enough that you did not even list them in your
      response.

      Me<<Would be more convincing if you had ever made any money
      on any stock. >>>

      EMOron<<I
      have been very successful in this market and you are
      jealous.>>

      Yeah, that must be it, ROFL.

    • <<<So? It also has greater potential
      liabilities. Duh!>>>

      The contribution of
      income taxes, sales taxes and excise taxes from big MO
      to big brother is gigantic. The federal and state
      government does not want that to
      disappear.

      mo_ofe<<<I sure was laughing. Ha ha ha!>>>

      I
      will be laughing after Phase
      II

      mo_foe:<<<That's probably why youi made so much money off
      it.>>>>

      I did. I bought at 35 and sold right before the
      Engle verdict.

      mo_roe<<<MOron still
      does not understand that those things are likely
      irrelevant.>>>

      Those facts are very relevant in deciding damages. You
      will learn that at some
      point.

      mo_foe:<<<Would be more convincing if you had ever made any money
      on any stock. >>>

      I have been very
      successful in this market and you are jealous.

    • <<It aint so
      Think about it. Corning
      wasn't anything like MO.

      MO has higher sales than
      MSFT, CSCO, INTC and DELL combined.>>

      So?
      It also has greater potential liabilities.
      Duh!

      <<MO has brand names as strong as Microsoft, Coke
      McDonalds etc.>>

      Hitler also had great name
      recognition.

      <<MO has not lost yet. Phase I was a
      joke.>>

      I sure was laughing. Ha ha ha!

      << We
      knew the outcome before the trial
      began.>>

      That's probably why youi made so much money off
      it.

      << The jury will likely find that the smokers were
      negligent for there own health problems and hence award
      only nominal damages against MO. The warnings on the
      side of the cigarette packages will vindicte
      MO.>>

      MOron still does not understand that those things are
      likely irrelevant.

      <<MO has won every
      Appeal.>>

      Nevertheless they also have gone bankrupt after every class
      action lawsuit they faced.

      <,MO management did
      make mistakes in dealing with this issue, but those
      mistakes have already been priced into the stock
      IMO>>

      Would be more convincing if you had ever made any money
      on any stock.

    • so, mo breaks up food and tobacco, tobacco must pay all the
      shit fool lawyers but food is going like ever, and the company is kraft foods!!

    • Think about it. Corning wasn't anything like
      MO.

      MO has higher sales than MSFT, CSCO, INTC and DELL
      combined.

      MO has brand names as strong as Microsoft, Coke
      McDonalds etc.

      MO has not lost yet. Phase I was a
      joke. We knew the outcome before the trial began. The
      jury will likely find that the smokers were negligent
      for there own health problems and hence award only
      nominal damages against MO. The warnings on the side of
      the cigarette packages will vindicte MO.

      MO
      has won every Appeal.

      MO management did make
      mistakes in dealing with this issue, but those mistakes
      have already been priced into the stock IMO.

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