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  • marklibera marklibera Aug 25, 2011 7:03 PM Flag

    OT: Susan/QE/Jackson Hole

    Susan, no doubt you are waiting to slam me if Bernanke does not announce QE3 tomorrow at Jackson Hole as I had predicted earlier. At this time, it does not seem that he will, or if he does, that it will be a size large enough to matter to the stock market. As I also said, in order for there to be QE3, the economy and the stock market really have to tank. They may be well on their way, but with the S&P over 1100, I just don't think that level will get Bernanke to pull the trigger. I still believe that if the market and economy, whether brought on by a European event or otherwise, starts to spin out-of-control downwardly, the Fed will print again.

    Today, I sold a few positions and bought some insurance in case the market is disappointed. On a Friday in late August, with the remaining traders headed for shelter from the hurricane, the selling could get ugly if it starts.

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    • ..."Re: MARK...IT IS NOW TIME TO SHARE.... 1-Sep-11 09:37 pm Once again wading into territory you know little if nothing about. Convicted criminals do not have to be sentenced to jail time."....

      Soros is not a criminal. He pleaded not guilty on the basis that he did NOT participate in the bank takeover and only bought the stock after it was PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. It's quite obvious even to a dunder like you , allnuts, that he was facetiously convicted by a French kangagro court. Soros applealed and no punitive damgages were assessed even after 14 years.

      ...."They can have their sentences suspended, they can be fined or they can get community service. But a criminal conviction stays on your record."...

      So what, everyone knows it was a bogus decision and the man went on to make $14.2 billion with nary a black mark against his exemplary career.

      Tell me GFacts are you a lawyer? If not' then just admit you don't know everything there is to know about law. Otherwise you are just a fool who thinks they know everything."...

      I'm not a lawyer and I've admitted on a number of occasions that I was wrong. However, in view of the bogus decision and the public awareness of the takeover before he bought the stock, you wouldn't even make the grade as a lowly paralegal. Yuk Yk

      marklibera

    • Once again wading into territory you know little if nothing about. Convicted criminals do not have to be sentenced to jail time. They can have their sentences suspended, they can be fined or they can get community service. But a criminal conviction stays on your record.

      Tell me GFacts are you a lawyer? If not' then just admit you don't know everything there is to know about law. Otherwise you are just a fool who thinks they know everything.

    • Bernanke, Obamma et al......there will not be any easing, just as I told you....notice this stock taking a huge hit yesterday and again today. Same for NMM which is another junk style high divvie stock, which pays part of it's divvy from principal....selling is starting to get ugly and more to come...

      • 2 Replies to sid66tb
      • Susan, there is no doubt that both obama and bernanke are desperate for anything. But I think you are wrong that this means QE3 is out. Bernanke already agreed to extend zirp for 2 more years. In addition the Fed has exercised swap lines to Europe. The fed has voiced approval for the mortgage refi plan that was leaked because the Fed's mbs will get paid off and they can take those proceeds and buy more Treasuries or mbs. Recently, several of the Fed governors, including former dissenters Bulllard and Kochaloctera, came out for more easing if conditions warranted. Tomorrow, we will get the employment number and many are expecting less than 100k new jobs. If job creation is that low, that could be the last straw for an announcement after the Sept Fed meeting.

        As I said, I agree with you that none of these actions help the economy, but they could give stocks a boost, but no one knows for how long.

      • ...."Markets have lost confidence in 1-Sep-11 03:12 pm Bernanke, Obamma et al......there will not be any easing, just as I told you....notice this stock taking a huge hit yesterday and again today. Same for NMM which is another junk style high divvie stock, which pays part of it's divvy from principal....selling is starting to get ugly and more to come"...

        sid66tb

        She's baaack. Yuk Yuk For the old wind back to be returning to this thread after her lengthy absence is reminiscence of the sabbatical she took after taking a huge pounding on the Qmar/Exm merger. I believe it was almost 2 years. Yuk Yuk Now comes this addicted naked option gambler to stir up more fear on the downward spriral of SFL ala allnuts to hopefully take another stupid flyer at trying to recoupe her losses on the last fiasco.

        These two birdbrains still don't get it. There is no sure way to make a fast buck gambling, whether it's in risky options or Vegas.

    • ...."Re: MARK...IT IS NOW TIME TO SHARE.... 1-Sep-11 12:06 pm Once again G facts sticking his foot in his mouth. He doesn't even understand criminal law versus civil law. Your post just admitted Soros was convicted of a felony. A felony is a CRIME not a technical violation. Prison is a sentence, the punishment aspect of criminal proceedings. Punitive damages is a civil ( not criminal ) remedy.

      allnuts, you're no expert on investing and youcertaily are not a legal one. A criminal convicted of a crime goes to jail, one convicted in a civil sit does not. Soros was convicted of a felony and served no time ergo, he's not a criminal, doofus!! Further proof that he was litigated against by a French kangaroo court was the (FACT) that the bank takeover was public knowledge prior to his buying the stock. See how stupid your bogus argument gets the more you stick you foot in your mouth?

      ...."Facts, do yourself a favor and get them to change the channel on the ward and put some Law and Order episodes on so you can learn a little about law before you go trying to prove your ignorance defending your liberal convicted heroes, like Soros and Clinton."...

      Now, I've always said allnuts, that you never had both oars in the water. You started out by giving us a horrible desertation on the legal aspects of criminality and end up with some cockamamie politcal commennt about liberalism. You must have popped the wrong pill after the criminal B.S. before you started your political attack. Yuk Yuk

      marklibera

    • Once again G facts sticking his foot in his mouth. He doesn't even understand criminal law versus civil law. Your post just admitted Soros was convicted of a felony. A felony is a CRIME not a technical violation. Prison is a sentence, the punishment aspect of criminal proceedings. Punitive damages is a civil ( not criminal ) remedy.

      G Facts, do yourself a favor and get them to change the channel on the ward and put some Law and Order episodes on so you can learn a little about law before you go trying to prove your ignorance defending your liberal convicted heroes, like Soros and Clinton.

    • ...."I knew George Soros made his billions with the Quantum Fund but I wanted to check his bio to see what else they said about how he made his fortune. This is what I found from Answers.com:

      George Soros uses the wealth he amassed as a financier to support liberal U.S. political candidates and pro-democracy movements worldwide. Soros a billionaire. His knack for seeing trends and acting on them with gutsy marketplace gambits sometimes caused controversy. He was called "the man who broke the Bank of England" for the role his currency trades played in the 1992 "Black Wednesday" crash of the British pound; in 2002 he was convicted of insider trading in France.

      So Soros is a convicted criminal."...

      marklibera

      By In large we have an intelligent message board here not polluted by airheads like allnuts and sid66 whose only agenda is to preach short term risky addictive option gambling.

      allnuts, who didn't know Soros from his hind end before I brought him to his attention as the premire currrency trader in the world has the audacity to call him a "criminal" (criminals serve time in jail, he never served any jail time on this matter at all) without giving you the audience the true story and here it is from the NY Times......

      "Insider trading conviction
      In 1988, he was asked to join a takeover attempt of the French bank Société Générale. He declined to participate in the bid but later bought a number of shares in the company. French authorities began an investigation in 1989, and in 2002 a French court ruled that it was insider trading, a felony conviction as defined under French securities laws, and fined him $2.3 million, which was the amount that he made using the insider information.

      Punitive damages were never sought because of the delay in bringing the case to trial. Soros denied any wrongdoing and said news of the takeover was public knowledge.[41]

      His insider trading conviction was upheld by the highest court in France on June 14, 2006.[42] In December 2006, he appealed to the European Court of Human Rights, claiming that the 14-year delay in bringing the case to trial precluded a fair hearing.[43]"

      Not once did allnuts the, dunce, mention that Soros declined to help take over the French Bank but instead bought some shares in it (not a crime because Soros indicated it was public knowledge). NO PUNITIVE DAMAGES WERE EVEN FILED AGAINST SOROS BY THE FRENCH COURT because of the long delay in bringing the case to tral. It's obvious this was a French kangaroo court.

      There you have it the true story of George Soros and not just negative snippets and the defamation of a true financial genius by a worthless low life like allnuts, the risky naked option gambler whose yet to convert that stupid tradng method into any monetary gain. Yuk Yuk Yuk.

    • I knew George Soros made his billions with the Quantum Fund and I knew he had made billions with currency trades, but I wanted to check his bio to see what else they said about how he made his fortune. This is what I found from Answers.com:

      George Soros uses the wealth he amassed as a financier to support liberal U.S. political candidates and pro-democracy movements worldwide. As a teenage Hungarian immigrant at the London School of Economics, he studied finance and the "open society" theories of philosopher Karl Popper, an advocate of civil and political liberties. After brokerage work in London and New York, he started in 1969 what became the Quantum Fund, one of the world's first hedge funds. It eventually paid 4,000-fold on initial investments and made Soros a billionaire. His knack for seeing trends and acting on them with gutsy marketplace gambits sometimes caused controversy. He was called "the man who broke the Bank of England" for the role his currency trades played in the 1992 "Black Wednesday" crash of the British pound; in 2002 he was convicted of insider trading in France.

      Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/george-soros#ixzz1WYUd6gFl

      So Soros is a convicted criminal.

    • ...."Re: IT IS NOT OVER YET.... 16 minutes ago Oh, don't worry about Susan. I already found her on the IVR board. She'll resurface on the next down day."...

      Are You crazy not to worry about sid66, allnuts? She lost big shorting the Qmar/Exm merger and disappeared for almos 2 years. She bragged about her $17.50 naked option puts and they went down to $11.50 not too long ago and now she won't even dare reply to your last stupid post to her for fear the factsman will tear her apart. Yuk Yuk

      Get a life. allnuts.

      marklibera

    • Oh, don't worry about Susan. I already found her on the IVR board. She'll resurface on the next down day.

    • Re: OT: Susan/QE/Jackson Hole 28-Aug-11 06:40 pm imkul2003,

      ....."imkul2003,

      You're on the list. You better watch out!

      Signed,

      marklibera, sid(66) and allnuts."...

      The only targeted idiot on the list is allnuts. All others are just a compilation of his many aliases. Yuk Yuk



      marklibera

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