EBITDA in Q4 is supposed to be between 300 and 500,000. Didn't predict EPS. The said Q4 would be terrible, zero growth again. My favorite line was the one that said something like "We know q4 is bad but it isn't really that bad it is just that q4 2011 was just so great." What kind of #$%$ is that. What a bunch of children. They did say Q1 2013 will be a big quarter so we have to look forward to.