I am sorry, I see you are having some trouble understanding my message. I do realize that the message boards do squat for influencing stock prices, as mutual funds and hedge funds couldn't care less about what's posted, and they are the ones moving the market. And yes, I do care about both my momey, and other people's money, since we all know that when this bubble explodes, that's very likely to throw us back into recession, which is going to affect everyone, regarding of whether you are long or short. I'd much rather see the hedge funds and other speculators get burned, rather than the little guy.
Their motivations are bigger than ruining Christmas shopping, and based on the intelligence reports and analysis I am reading, their goal seems to be to act before the end of Ramadan, which also conicides with the begining of our Thanksgiving holiday.