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  • donkey_oh_t donkey_oh_t Sep 4, 2008 12:29 PM Flag

    Haven't Posted For A While...

    just wanted to stop by and see how Bravo and group are doing. Hey Bravo - hate to say it - but I think I was pretty much spot on (again).

    Here's another prediction. This stock will continue lower and likely see $14 - $15 before years end. Real numbers will start to come out about the number of advertisers that are leaving Yahoo. Google continues to take spam and fraudulent pay-per-click activities seriously and are doing something about it. Yahoo encourages spam and click-fraud and sees it as a means to increase revenues (was a nice try during the MS fiasco) but now Yahoo is seeing the damage and understands the number of advertisers that have left or significantly reduced advertising spend with Yahoo.

    Time for a Yang-bang. Top management need to go.

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    • Let's give your plan a try dude since Paulson's plan is huge failure. Market lost over 400 pts as soon as deal got inked. That should send a message to the jerks that voted for this.

      Hey Ride...why do you suppose that the republicans didn't all band together and vote against it so they could use it as a campaign theme? They could let the democrats be the only ones voting for it and people's rage would be focused on the democrats. Might have turned the election dude
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      One of the economists on Dobbs show last night, brought up the fact that this massive bailout benefactors would be 50% foreign companies. I guess they know that much about who's holding all the bad paper to guesstimate that.

      I'd like more details on particulars, myself. I hope this system they setup has transparency. It'll be huge during the elections, IMO.

      I don't know why. You bring up a good point. If I were McCain, and that far behind, it's do or die. You have to try something bold and hope it works. I could see voting the way he did, if it were an even race, you wouldn't want to do anything bold. But, he's so far behind, at this stage a bold maneuver is necessary, IMO.

      McCain and republicans could have banded together and let the bill pass solely as democratic bill (and lameduck Bush). Since the dems had such big role in FNM/FRE demise, this could have become a real game-changer giving pubs a chance to take some seats. But, they blew it totally. Now, the public is fuming at both parties.

      If the third parties had a decent candidate like a Perot, they'd win in a landslide, IMO! Too bad.

    • As to bailout, let's see the scope and then determine what steps to take. I'm okay with a deal similar to AIG where taxpayers would give a bridge loan with steep interest charges to any AMERICAN firm requiring cash. I don't consider AIG an American firm, because their performing assets are all incorporate in Bermuda. Only the holding company holding liabilities is incorporate in DE. No taxpayer bailout should leave this country, IMO. That's the only restrictions. Similar to AIG deal, taxpayers actually could make money on the deal if it's structured toughly not to be a giveaway. If anyone wants to buy assets after a bailout, they should pay a premium to us taxpayers and it should be distributed in a check directly to us, and not to be used for anything else.

      Also, since the majority of these CDS are owned by foreign investors, AGAIN, no taxpayer bailout should be used to bailout foreigners. Let the CDS default, rather than have more wealth leave this country. We have a far worse balance sheet than does China. No bailouts to make whole Chinese investors, IMO. If there's a default, let them take whatever sheister Wall St. firm that defrauded them to court.

      That's a start at my plan.
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      Let's give your plan a try dude since Paulson's plan is huge failure. Market lost over 400 pts as soon as deal got inked. That should send a message to the jerks that voted for this.

      Hey Ride...why do you suppose that the republicans didn't all band together and vote against it so they could use it as a campaign theme? They could let the democrats be the only ones voting for it and people's rage would be focused on the democrats. Might have turned the election dude.

    • Long climb back to respectablity for Yahoo. Bad quarterly and this stock is heading for $10! Icahn must be pissed...

    • I hope that you wrote to your representatives and let them know your anger.
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      My representatives were busy this weekend talking to my AG about stalkers on the Yahoo message board. You told them last month that THIS was the most important issue and NOW you want them to switch gears and worry about finance!???

    • Wouldn't that be nice dude! Specially before the elections I think people would want to know their solutions for this crisis.
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      One of the senators this morning suggested they take a deep breath and come back when they've actually put together some details of this mysterious plan for which they desire $700 billion or so of our money.

      I heard that equated to a 55% increase in taxes necessary to fund such a monstrosity. Nobody should stand still for this.

    • Wrong dude. The lobby got to him and he changed it to bail out foreign companies too. Actually they say he didn't provide any details because he wants sole discretion to use the $700 billion however he wants with no restrictions. Anybody that passes that should be strung up by their nuts!
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      You would be correct, Ken. Lobbyists got hold of him over the weekend and changed his mind for him.

      I hope that you wrote to your representatives and let them know your anger.

      I was listening to the hearings earlier and noticed many good questions being asked but didn't notice any sufficient answers.

      And, I'm reading contrary stories that this might not be necessary at all because of certain aspect working as they should. I heard that the credit pipes froze again, but I suspect that might be due to the ineptness on display during those hearings.

    • Anybody that passes that should be strung up by their nuts!
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      Or nipples!?

    • I finally saw some rough details of what Paulson is proposing, but keep in mind that may not be the same things lobbyists that control congress have in mind. Saturday's WSJ had an article about lobbyists and industry insiders asking for all types of windfall they want as part of this massive bailout. I was fuming!!!! It's like one last raping of the American public by this administration and its business cohorts and lobbyists before leaving office. Made my blood boil!

      Paulson's proposal is for the government to buy up to $700 billion of mortgage related securities and assets. Now, that could be a wide swath. Currently, he's proposing buying at auction residential and commercial mortgage securities. I had no idea they were considering commercial assets. Those were "bubble-ized" far more than residential properties. I'd eliminate commercial, if I were in congress. And, I wouldn't propose buying MBS for residential. What would be better is the govt. should buy up the residential mortgages themselves, pay off the mortgages, and let the people in default stay in their homes and pay rent to the govt until the mtge is paid off.

      This would give the banks their cash, people wouldn't be evicted, and they could rewrite the terms of those mortgages once the govt. owned them. That's similar to what they did earlier.

      Also, Paulson's present plan excludes foreign corporations - THANK GOD!!!!! But, again, let's see what the industry lobbyists that control congress do.
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      Wrong dude. The lobby got to him and he changed it to bail out foreign companies too. Actually they say he didn't provide any details because he wants sole discretion to use the $700 billion however he wants with no restrictions. Anybody that passes that should be strung up by their nuts!

    • And, I'd like to see our presidential candidates have a series of town hall meetings to discuss these issues with the public, who have many unanswered questions about both of them. They both seem to be avoiding press conferences.
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      Wouldn't that be nice dude! Specially before the elections I think people would want to know their solutions for this crisis.

    • I'd bet that they just can't wait to answer. ;)
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      Why? You won't accept their verdict anyway!

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