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  • mdj378fjbvh38583jdi4kl3k mdj378fjbvh38583jdi4kl3k Apr 5, 2003 12:22 PM Flag

    Write to your leaders

    To the employees and investors in America. We must all of us now realise that Siemens and other German and French companies have many employees and investors in America. It is in all of our interest to make absolutely certain that this proposed law that would forbid German companies like Siemens from bidding on contracts to rebuild Iraq does not get passed in your American congress. America will be spending billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq and it is only right that some of it goes to these companies that employ you or you invest in.

    So, I ask all of you to write to your leaders in Washington and tell them not to make this a law. You should make the following points in your letters.

    1. Although these companies like Siemens are German, they employ many in America. Make it sound personal because it is your own future.

    2. If you are Siemens employee, you should say how well the company treats you and shows you respect, dignity, and cares about you and your family's well being.

    3. You tell them how much also that you care about Siemens and how much you are proud to work for this company and hopefully that it makes good profits so you can stay working for them.

    4. It is not right to hold companies responsible for remarks made by Gerhard Schroeder. Tell them that mostly Germans like Bush and are glad that he went to war. Siemens is moral company that would never do anything that would help Hussein.

    5. Because the USA does not want to punish the innocent people of Iraq, it would be wrong to deny to them the worlds most high quality technology.

    It is time to let the past alone. I will no longer boycott McDonalds as a gesture of my good faith. We must go forward now as allies and make sure our company that we work for or invest in remains strong. America $ is essential for this to happen now.

    My thanks to all of you for your cooperation in this very important matter.

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    • F*ck OFF. I could care less how many Americans Siemens employs. In fact, I wish Siemens would pack it's bags and leave the US. It's a German company. Germany wasn't there to support the US before the war, it's time for payback. I want, no I demand, that our Congress stick it to the Germans, the French, the Russians.

    • MDJ -

      Being an ex Siemens employee and having seen what they have achieved in their US Telecommunications locations, I really have no admiration for their management team.

      Though I am sympathetic to the various responses that your recommendations have elicited, we need to move beyond the present status of German bashing. This isn't about Siemens, it's about the mistake the German made in getting in bed with the French. The French envision themselves as returning to world power status as the leader of the EU. Wrong thought. If Germany will shed themselves of this albatross and join with present and future members of the EU that favor a mutually beneficial relationship with the US, they themselves will become the strength of the EU.
      The French are pathetic has beens, basking in the role of an annoying gnat.

      • 1 Reply to farquard62
      • My friend you are absolutely right. It is time put this German bashing behind us and to move forward as allies and partners. Although there are a few people who have expressed hateful opinions of Siemens and Germany on this messge board, I truly believe that there are many more who read this and agree with us, but just do not post there own messages. I am thinking that probably there are hundreds or even more proud employees and investors that have read my post and already have written to there leaders.

        Your other point about the French is also very good. If you have not yet written to your leaders this is another point that you can add to your letter. It is the French that have caused these problems for the USA, and it is there companies that should be punished, not the German companies. While I must admit that Germany was neutral on this issue, the French were quite hostile to the USA. Germany is now wishing for a quick victory for the USA. Therefore it is quite right to provide funds to German companies such as Siemens to rebuild the phones and electricity and hospitals.

        Thank you for your support in this matter.

    • Why should any of us American "fat bastards" (your term not ours) help ANY German company to get work in post-war Iraq. If we all spend 5 or 10 minutes reading your past hateful posts we will get to see the way Germans really feel about Americans. Apparently, some Germans did not learn to lose their hateful ways after being defeated in WWII.

      • 1 Reply to jade610
      • My dear colleague, you have mistaken my words to be hateful. I can assure you that is not the case. These words are only meant to make you stronger, to use your phrase, to give you a more thick skin. This is to make you a more effective employee or investor.

        And since you mentioned the world war, do not forget that America almost destroyed many of our cities with its bombs and killed many thousands of German people. And yet in spite of that we have become the strongest of allies and partners in business.

        So please do not take the fat lazy bastard comments as personal. This is just sometimes the way that we express ourselves.

    • Hey MDJ, you must be smoking the crack pipe again.

      All I can do is laugh at your comments and how you are trying to promote and save Siemens in the USA.

      Your points are all invalid:

      1. Although these companies like Siemens are German, they employ many in America. Make it sound personal because it is your own future.

      Wrong: Siemens laid off most of it's American workforce and replaces them with Asians and Indians on visa. The Siemens sites in the USA are mainly populated by Germans, Brazilians, Asians, Indians. Most of whom are not U.S. residents. This does nothing for the American people.

      2. If you are a Siemens employee, you should say how well the company treats you and shows you respect, dignity, and cares about you and your family's well being.

      Wrong: I worked for Siemens and the company treats there employees like shit because the Germans have no tact and are so self-centered and egotistical. They definately do not know how to run businesses and keep American employees. They hire people on visas who will work 80 hour weeks for $10-$15 an hour.

      3. You tell them how much also that you care about Siemens and how much you are proud to work for this company and hopefully that it makes good profits so you can stay working for them.

      Wrong: Again, most American employees do not care about Siemens and hate working for the company. When the market picks up, these people will leave Siemens in the drop of a hat. Sure, be proud to work for a company that treats it's employees like crap.

      4. It is not right to hold companies responsible for remarks made by Gerhard Schroeder. Tell them that mostly Germans like Bush and are glad that he went to war. Siemens is moral company that would never do anything that would help Hussein.

      Wrong: Siemens is not a moral company. They supported the German army during World War II and killed many Jewish people using their technologies. They also sold parts to Iraq so that it could make Weapons of Mass Destruction and also try to build nuclear weapons. You said before that you hated Mr. Bush, now you are contradicting yourself.

      5. Because the USA does not want to punish the innocent people of Iraq, it would be wrong to deny to them the worlds most high quality technology.

      Wrong: The world's most high quality technology comes from the mighty USA. Siemens products are crap and most Americans are begining to realise this. Siemens has cheapened their products tremendously over the last 4 years and you can definately see it in their quality.

      All of my points basically say that we should tell Siemens to get lost and get out of the USA and also stay out of Iraq because we don't want your crappy equipment there.

      I will gladly right my opinions about Siemens to my leaders in Washington. I will say that this company has a habit of getting rid of the American workers and that congress should pass a law to limit the amount of employees with visas. This will allow more US workers to keep their jobs. Siemens is trying to build in the USA without using American workers. The only American workers for Siemens are the sales people because they have to be in order to talk to other American companies.

 
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