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  • the_fat_lady_is_warming_up the_fat_lady_is_warming_up Mar 19, 2006 3:23 AM Flag

    soggy never covered this bit...

    ... too busy trolling, misrepresenting and spinning, i guess, that's ok - with all the above responsibilities, i understand he's a busy guy.

    but some response (besides "the dick"'s) would be appreciated.


    so let's try again:


    Re:russian Linux site? Linux sans GPL?
    by: the_fat_lady_is_warming_up (41/Chicago, IL)
    Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 03/18/06 12:42 pm
    Msg: 1102865 of 1103016

    copyright laws, like every other law are subject to jurisdiction. i feel theirs (what i know of them) are skewed too far in one direction, and ours are skewed too far in the other.

    personally, i don't like the concept of that particular site very much.

    but let's recast your question a bit, to wit, you said:

    >>>Do you feel that people should be able to bypass the GPL and linux copyrights in the same way that many f/oss zealots advocate bypassing music copyrights?<<<

    firstly, i'll note that your statement regarding "many f/oss zealots" is unsupported, unfair and incendiary, but your bullshit aside, since you seem you imply that you don't like using laws in various other jurisdictions to your advantage, i have to ask:

    do you feel corporations should be able to bypass u.s. tax laws the way microsoft does by using the tax laws in ireland?


    Posted as a reply to: Msg 1102861 by zogdan2

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    • << firstly, i'll note that your statement regarding "many f/oss zealots" is unsupported, unfair and incendiary >>

      Oh really?

      Do a scrape through this message board and you'll find this is precisely the case.

      << that you don't like using laws in various other jurisdictions to your advantage, i have to ask: >>

      I never claimed any such thing.

      My claim was that many of YOU linux f/oss zealots seem to be very selective about the rights you try to protect... and you're completely hypocritical in terms of your support for the GPL, but at the same time looking for ways to violate music copyrights.

      << do you feel corporations should be able to bypass u.s. tax laws the way microsoft does by using the tax laws in ireland? >>

      They are not bypassing laws, they are complying with the laws. Just because you don't like the outcome doesn't mean that Microsoft has done anything wrong.

      That said, I've always felt that US tax code was far too complex and left too many loopholes - and if this is an unfair loophole, then I believe that the legislators should fix it.




      Now - I note that after you tried to change the subject here - you still haven't answered my question - so let's get back on track:


      Do you feel that people should be able to bypass the GPL and linux copyrights in the same way that many f/oss zealots advocate bypassing music copyrights?


      Be honest.

      :)

      -Zog

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      • the_fat_lady_is_warming_up the_fat_lady_is_warming_up Mar 19, 2006 11:20 AM Flag

        >>>Oh really?

        Do a scrape through this message board and you'll find this is precisely the case.<<<

        this board is hardly representative of any general population - on either side of the argument going on here.

        unless of course you think most msft supporters are anally and orally obsessed. the connection you're making is just as weak as that.

        >>>That said, I've always felt that US tax code was far too complex and left too many loopholes - and if this is an unfair loophole, then I believe that the legislators should fix it.<<<

        i've generally thought that for a long time.

        >>>Now - I note that after you tried to change the subject here - you still haven't answered my question - so let's get back on track:

        Do you feel that people should be able to bypass the GPL and linux copyrights in the same way that many f/oss zealots advocate bypassing music copyrights?<<<

        i didn't change the question - i simply clarified that it's about jurisdictions (plural) - despite your attempt to spin it (see above).

    • <personally, i don't like the concept of that particular site very much.>


      So far as I can gather from zog's failure/refusal to provide any information whatsoever, no such site exists.

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      • << So far as I can gather from zog's failure/refusal to provide any information whatsoever, no such site exists. >>

        Oh gee... that's right... I forgot that wonton needs a web site to see before he thinks about anything.

        I'll ask again to see if today you get some guts:

        Do you feel that people should be able to bypass the GPL and linux copyrights in the same way that many f/oss zealots advocate bypassing music copyrights?


        My guess: you'd dodge and weave again today... most likely run away.

        -Zog

    • the_fat_lady_is_warming_up the_fat_lady_is_warming_up Mar 19, 2006 11:52 AM Flag

      >>>totally different cases. why don't we discuss the topic at hand? why do you feel compelled to introduce a new one?<<<

      no, they're not - and i'm not introducing a new one. if you feel they are different, don't just say so - tell me how.

      why do you feel so put out that i won't comply with your and soggy's spin on the thing? nobody's obligated to play your "when did you stop beating your wife?" games.

      you're spinning it - pure and simple.

    • >goes both ways. if you don't see that, you are messed up.

      You just did it again, stupid. I said that you excuse your own behaviour by claiming that others do the same, and your response is "so do you."

      My God but you're a retarded moron!

    • << as an aside, I believe ROMS is changing some of their rules come 9-1-06 which will render it illegal for me to buy from them. Since I respect law & copyright (despite intentoshill & soggy's lies to the contrary), my last download from the service will occur no later than 8-31-06. >>

      Interesting.

      Perhaps in that time they'll also start hosting open source software - and thus allowing people to get it without being restricted by the GPL.

      They should perhaps consider their own Linux distribution... think about it, what would a GPL-less Linux do to rest of the Linux the market?

      -Zog

    • if you already answered, why does zog keep asking?

    • Fats?

      Why does it seem you slink away when posed with this question?

      Here it is again:

      I'm asking if YOU think it's RIGHT. I want YOUR personal opinion:

      If you think it's okay for people use sites like the russian music hosting site to try to circumvent music copyrights, do you ALSO think it'd be okay for people to use the same sites to circumvent the GPL and open source developer copyrights?


      This is a simple question... an easy yes or no would do...

      I suspect that you will continue to dodge and dodge and dodge.

      -Zog

    • My posting here makes me nothing. It's simply amusing to take ABM trailer trash like yourself and show you to be the arrogant, clueless, lying sack of shit fucks that you are.

    • "There is no other logical answer but he get paid to post or is an idiot."

      So let's see, you can *invest* 5 years and 7,000 hours for zero return, but anyone else who comes along must be a paid poster? Are you EVER consistent? LMFAO.

      "Either fits fine."

      The only fit established is the one between your head and your ass.

    • >5 years, 7,000 hours, ZERO return for your *investment*.

      If, as you say, one posts here only for personal gain, how have YOU profitted by posting here?

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