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  • hawcreek_2007 hawcreek_2007 Mar 8, 2008 1:28 PM Flag

    Okay-"Bush destroyed the dollar" crowd listen up

    There will be a quiz this November.

    You have a good point Bush has not been what fiscal conservatives would prefer and could have done a better job.

    That said, the speicific job of the Federal governement is to protect this nation.

    It is NOT to educate classrooms why "Timmy Has Two Daddies"

    Nor is it to provide a retirement subsidy to multi-millionaires.

    Nor is it to make sure people won't fall through the cracks and go hungry (even though that is a noble idea, it's not their stated job).

    ETc. Etc.

    Social programs take up 65% of the budget and yet no liberal says its the expansion of prescription medicine coverage that is ruining the dollar. nEVER!

    ...65% freaking percent!!!!!!

    Less than 20% goes to all the military, which is arguably the *FEDERAL* government's only reason for being.

    Sh*t more is spent on the Social Security Ponzi scheme than the military.

    http://www.publicagenda.org/issues/factfiles_detail.cfm?issue_type=federal_budget&list=8

    NOW! ALL THAT SAID, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE DOLLAR IF WE HAD SEVERAL DIRTY (OR WORSE TN) BOMBS GO OFF IN MAJOR CITIES?

    Social Security won't matter. Mecicare won't matter. Food stamps won't matter. Better schools won't matter...you get the drift.

    You saw in New Orleans what happens when authority breaks down. Police (understandibly) go home to protect their own families. The nursemaid government goes away.

    Mistakes have been made, some of them big mistakes. It takes a "do-nothing" President to avoid mistakes.

    That we have not had another attack on U.S. soil in 6 years is amazing. I don't expect it not to happen at some point, but just getting here today is amazing. I expect one every week and a week at a time goes by and we move along.

    The morons cite the lack of attacks as proof "terrorists" are not a threat, but in reality, dozens or perhaps hundreds of credible plans have been thwarted...freaking amazing.

    Tell me, where is the dollar after several successful attacks and as chaos reigns?

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    • <Killing 1 million people over fictional WMD is a bad idea regardless of how it's executed >

      So is lying.

    • <It seems you regurgitate RWNJ propaganda with the same carelessness that most of the uneducated sheep of today. >

      It seems you have an agenda set and information that does not contribut to that agenda is of no interest to you. You are the stereo-typical LWNJ.

    • ""The "thus" is "adapt to reality or die."""

      How is this so??
      Can you back any of this up with a real understanding of economics???

      Why must nations trade to survive??
      Quick look through your RWNJ handbook and answer back.

      ""Today isolationism is like communism, it's unnatural and looks good only on paper.""

      Can ya give us a little insight into why this is true.
      I mean other than Limbaugh or Hannity talking points.

      My expectations are heavily diminished by your prior responses. It seems you regurgitate RWNJ propaganda with the same carelessness that most of the uneducated sheep of today.

    • dynamite_as_wrathful_pig dynamite_as_wrathful_pig Mar 8, 2008 10:54 PM Flag

      no probs, ya rimmjob.

    • <Thus it has not "always been thus". >

      The "thus" is "adapt to reality or die."

      <So how can you say it was never possible?? >

      It *was* possible, that was the reality of *then.* Today isolationism is like communism, it's unnatural and looks good only on paper. In 1880 no one had electricity or air conditioning and that "worked" then too. You see us going back there?

    • <We don't print money for that particular purpose. >

      You ever read the story I heard from an ironworker?

      He said he was "out of town, down on his luck, out of work, out of money for food...and down to $17 for beer."

      We print money to buy things we cannot afford. If we cut social welfare spending by 25% we would have a balanced budget.

      I understand spending money in this country is less impactful than money sent overseas. That's a great other reason we should be drilling ANWR, the Gulf and continuing subsidies for what would otherwise be non profitable energy ventures.

      <But you cannot make a case with any reasonable argument that the US is safer today than prior to Iraq. >

      I have, but you have your irrational agenda so there's no point in doing it again.

      Suffice it to say the idea was (imo) brilliant, but it was poorly excuted. And the fact is regardless of either of our opinions and evidence to support them, the answer won't be apparent for at least 10 years and possibly 50.

      <Lets be glad the era of big ears is through. >

      Did Hillary knife Obama?

    • Well ya miss the point.
      The dollar is falling now because of the opening up of trade and the postponement of inflation that this allowed.

      Just think what salaries would have been for average joes if the overseas trade had not kept them in check. During the early Clinton years wages were roaring. The resulting trade imbalance is however not a sustainable state without damage to the currency.

      That said neither big ears nor the playboy had much to do with it. It was their masters that hatched this plan. The fortunate 500 companies. They made the gold during this time. And invest it they did, in more infrastructure to enhance globalization.

      Social programs have very little impact on inflation and the value of the dollar. The money collected here and redistributed here. Null game.

      Now on the tangent issue of dirty bombs going off.
      That would be a bad thing for sure. We should some time try to convince our government to take some steps to keep that from happening. As of now nothing is being done and it will happen one day. O sure there you can find all kinda nuts that think the reformation of a small patch or dirt in the middle east is the answer to this problem while 99.99% of the threat lies in North Korea, former soviet states, pakistan....etc. No we invade the only country that has no nuclear material and big ears and his followers claim we are safe.

      Why is it amazing that we have had no attacks in the last 6 years. It was 7 years between world trade center attacks. And remember between those times some American citizens decided to go terrorist.

      "It takes a do nothing president to make mistakes"
      So doing anything is better than nothing. This is valid logic only to high school age brats.
      I understand Haw is a bit beyond this in chronological age.

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      • <Social programs have very little impact on inflation and the value of the dollar. The money collected here and redistributed here. Null game.>

        When you print money to pay for what you cannot afford (social programs), that is the definition of inflation. It is clearly no null game.

        <Why is it amazing that we have had no attacks in the last 6 years. It was 7 years between world trade center attacks.>

        Because it was not 7 years between attacks on American soil (remember the embassies?) and other American interests (Khobar Towers & Cole are examples) + the ante was raised on 9/11 as was the response level after 9/11. The battle was joined and we know they have been wanting to respond.

        <So doing anything is better than nothing.>

        In some cases...yes, although that is clearly not the message. The message is that doing nothing had been tried was not working, Clinton had tried that for 8 years and we were being ridiculed. So even a dart throw had a better chance of success than continuing doing nothing.

        That said, we didn't do just "anything."

 
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