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  • cfuryurself cfuryurself Jun 30, 2013 4:25 PM Flag

    hawcreek law allows starting a fight with a black man then shooting him if you are losing.

    I wonder if the law could be applied the other way in some liberal areas.

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    • If it was his own son lying dead, the killer wouldn't be given such mercy, and the act not so lawful.. The double standard is obvious, the right wing rears it's ugly head once again and says the black man is of lesser value. Even no value they seem to say. It's beyond logic why they can't see they are approving the man who committed the act to decide if he broke the law. They think he shouldn't have been arrested because of his own testimony at the scene, unbelievable they could think that way. The old south is very stubborn on this. Hawcreek will persist till the end of time saying it.

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      • 1 Reply to peppeek
      • "If it was his own son lying dead, the killer wouldn't be given such mercy..."

        When it's personal it's almost impossible to be dispassionate and fair. I don't blame Trayvon's parents for failing to see their own or Trayvon's possible contribution to the outcome.

        "...and the act not so lawful.. "

        The act may or may not have been unlawful, that's the reason we seat a jury not personally involved emotionally. So far there has been absolutely no evidence presented to dispute Zimmerman's account that it was lawful. Our system is set up to let some guilty walk if he were by forcing guilt to be proven.

        You playing the race card is idiotic, if the racial roles were reversed I would have the same position. A black man in Florida killed a white man in front of the white man's daughter because the white man defended some skate boarders and no charges were filed until charges were filed against Zimmerman and the "double standard" created an outcry, then it was manslaughter on a much clearer murder case with witnesses and evidence. Yes the double standard can be quite telling for you racists who remained silent on that case.

    • "George Zimmerman son of judge with sealed closed arrest record in Fla. 27 Mar 2012 'Now we know why George Zimmerman didn't get arrested... No Words... According to court records, George Zimmerman is the son of retired Supreme Court Magistrate Judge Robert J Zimmerman, his mother Gladys Zimmerman is a court clerk... He has three closed arrests: 7/18/05 for resisting arrest with violence and battery on a law enforcement officer div 10... 8/9/05 for domestic violence div 44... And again on 8/10/05, domestic violence"

    • "...starting a fight with a black man then shooting him "

      Your job, Mrs. Phelps, so you choose to accept it: Prove Mr. Zimmerman started the fight in spite of no supporting evidence and if so you may have a vehicle to a manslaughter conviction based on emotion.

      Considering the first words communicated, as both sides agree, were the words of Trayvon confronting Zimmerman, and consider that the State's prize witness has Trayvon muttering racial slurs just prior to the confrontation, good luck with your Mission Impossible task, Mrs Phelps, your premise will self destruct in 5 seconds as illogical.

      You know the interesting thing about your jury rigged supposition, is that in most places even if you begin the confrontation, the confronted one has no right to kill you by bashing your head into a concrete sidewalk. If it escalates to that you DO have a right to use deadly force.

      • 2 Replies to an_obama_nation
      • Seems that Zimmerman had a temper to start such a fight ...

        "In 2005, a woman filed a petition for an injunction against Zimmerman, claiming that he came to her house and became violent when she told him to leave, the Orlando Sentinel reports. Zimmerman, 21 at the time, filed a petition of his own in response.

        Just a month before that, the paper reports, Zimmerman was at a bar near the University of Central Florida when a friend was arrested on suspicion of serving minors. Zimmerman became profane and pushed a law enforcement agent who tried to escort him away. He was arrested after a short struggle. That arrest had been reported previously."

      • Deadly force is only usable in the case of reasonable fear of loss of life.
        Or if Zimm gets off then it must be OK to shoot if you are just losing the fight.

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