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  • teebrane teebrane Jul 6, 2013 12:38 PM Flag

    The truth about shorts

    They can turn brown when the ones wearing them get squeezed....Do you really think ancient whoa-nellies from the FDA scare us old-timers, TweenCrackSalesman? Do you really think your long-SIGA/short-PIP play is anything but a dangerously unbalanced Texas hedge? Here's a quote that has a whole heck of a lot more to do with correctly assessing the intrinsic value of PharmAthene: "You're entitled to your opinion. I'm telling you I don't agree with it." I doubt there's a single long here who can't immediately identify the source, but if there are, maybe they'll sell you theirs next time this stock pops on you weasels.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    • I like this quote better from the SC (you know, the court that sent this back to Parsons):

      "Isn't there a heads I win, tails you lose aspect to a claim for a breach of the duty to negotiate in good faith and by that I mean if any relief at all is granted whether it's reliance damages or expectation damages that necessarily presupposes that the negotiations would have concluded with some agreement and that speculative by its very nature because that's unknowable- So that's the heads I win - the tails you lose is that if full effect is given to that argument then no relief is granted and which case why recognize a claim for breach of the duty to negotiate in good faith at all and yet we have that?"

      Either the SC will have the final word, and thank god they have a more realistic outlook than Parsons, who is clearly taking this personally.

    • Fleabrain is back! Mr. 20 dollar Pip. I am not short Pip, good fortune has smiled down on them with Parsons getting the case and may continue to do so in the future. I just get a little tired of self righteous Pip zealots that don't even realize what lying cheats Pip management is. Pip management just keeps milking the govt and their own investors. Why don't you man up and admit that Pip management is less than honest? Don't be too verbose in your answer, summer vacation is almost over and I think you may have a hard time in ninth grade.

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      • I never left, TweenCrackSalesman - I continue to do what I've always said I'd do - trade profitably around a core holding. And if you're not lying in saying that you're not short pip, then A) get a life, B) no wonder you're mad, since SIGA management has likely put you way underwater with their far-more-egregious version of "honesty". I'm fine with PIP's current management - they've played a tough hand well. Oops..."egregious" is a tad sesquipedalian. I'd better go back to ninth grade - but don't let me catch you selling any crack to the tweens, because busting liar shorts is how we roll on Jump Street. And my target is 8, not 20...all 4 catalysts have to hit big for that 20 stuff.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • "You're entitled to your opinion. I'm telling you I don't agree with it."
      .... I think I have seen this before. VC Parsons responding to SIGA counsel's assertion that the SC ruling prevents an award of expectation damages (during the parties' recent meeting in chambers).

      I interpret the comment to mean that Parsons feels an expectation award similar to what he originally awarded (or even better for PIP) is definitively on the table.

      Teebrane you're probably right. I'm long PIP.

      On that note, if there's an abundantly confident short out there who is so sure PIP is going to zero, why not issue some call options... Lowest strike right now is 2.50 but maybe your confidence would allow you to offer a strike of 2! why not $1.80 for that matter? If you're so confident as to short PIP, why not also issue a strike of $2 let's say 9 months out. I'm sure you'll consider the premiums that will flow in to be found money.

 
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