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  • s_klumps s_klumps Nov 8, 2000 11:13 AM Flag

    BUSH WINS ! JCP GOOD BUY!

     

    bush wins florida by 1785 votes. recount is a formality. retail stocks will benefit from bush's tax cuts for all.

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    • janeway I'll talk to y'll later--I've got to go vote agan. Actually I'm going to associate night at JCP.

    • Yeah, I agree. Calling some one "a best politician" is truly daming with faint praise.

    • Slim,
      Yes and no. The so called "third World"
      is not quite so simple. Many suppliers in Hong Kong,
      Korea, Singapore, and even India develop line and styles
      for JCP which are out souced to Centeral America, the
      Caribean Basin, Mauritius, the Maldives, Fuji, etc. These
      companies develop lines just like their US conterparts. And
      no, it is just not JCP private brands. Direct source
      imports have risen at JCP from under 20% to 40-50%

    • Sorry to take so long to reply but my modem had
      the hic=cups.

      As a matter of fact I left the
      Home Office six months ago, I refer to my
      incarceration as the time I have to spend in my current job to
      satisfy the obligation of the new company's having moved
      me from Dallas.

      My anger is deep at the
      management of JCP for forcing me at 61 years of age to pull
      up statkes and move, just to survive. Sure, I
      doubled my salery, which is still undermarket for my
      speciality, but why should I have to tear up my
      life!

      I know I am only one of thousands of casualities of
      this pitiful situation.

    • Yes. They are the ones - thanks. There is also a
      small DT museum w/Remington paintings that was pretty
      good. Endowed by an erl-man, I believe. Didn't know
      Rem's paintings before, but loved his night
      work.

      t23

    • >>I would not argue as to Clinton being the
      best politician in his
      DECEPTION............<,

      all politics is "deception". either via sins of
      omission or sins of comission.

      that is why only
      fools believe anything most "leaders" say as their
      watchwords are egocentricity (which clinton has in spades)
      and incumbency (which both parties lie, cheat and
      steal for).

      the entirety of the constitution
      boils down to recognizing the dangers of politics and
      government and to try to protect the individual from
      both.

      >>....he has proven to be woefully lacking.
      <,

      these discussions have no real end..like those on, say,
      abortion, so i am going to bail after your reply (not
      meaning *any* disrespect..just don't have enough time to
      *really* get into this).

      that said, given a
      hateful, republican congress, he did a ton of governing,
      to include doing nothing when it was
      warranted.

      his hands-off way with the fed being a perfect
      example of that.

      again, i think he is a dangerous
      man, literally, and i'm not defending him..just
      recognize who/what he is.

      >>....he was
      dismally a failure of inacting any meaningful legislation
      in the first years of his term..<,

      so are
      most new presidents....it goes with the
      territory.

      >>....The thing that saved his skin in '96 was the fact
      that the Republicans had legislative control over the
      government............<,

      i knew there was a good reason to
      bail<g>.

      both sides of the coin in the last decade have been
      nothing less than disgusting.

      >>....A "Great
      Politician" is one that "leads", not one that just "benefits"
      from the doings of others........<,

      no. a
      great "leader" leads. a great politician stays in
      office, takes too much credit for good and makes all the
      bad things look like someone else's fault. clinton is
      the absolute master at this.

      >>THAT is a
      "Great Politician". <,

      i fear you confuse
      "politician" with "leader".

      >>Degrees of
      "smartness", IQ, schools of attendance, etc. does not make a
      politician great......<,

      there are many kinds of
      intelligence.

      clinton is brilliant and stupid at the
      same time...not an unusual combination for
      egocentrics.

      >>....as he had the God Given abilities, but did not
      utilize them. <<

      we differ insofar as you
      want to see reasons, in your dislike of him more than
      the other side, to show his inadequacies...and he has
      plenty.

      in my case, i can't stand him, but
      recognize his greatness within the confines of
      "politics"...as dirty and dishonest a business as there
      is.

      >>Screw The Taxpayers,
      Buy Them Votes,<,

      on
      this we agree<g>.

      over and out for your
      final.

    • Slim_and_none,

      Don't knock NYC. I've been
      a resident here my entire life, and it's not as
      stereotypical as you're led to believe by the media.

      All
      one needs to do is experience the culture and pride
      of NYC, especially during an event like the NYC
      Marathon, which I was fortunate enough to have participated
      in Sunday and completed. As you pass through the 5
      boroughs and interact with all the different cultures that
      come to motivate you, it's all worth
      it.

      Forever, NY

    • Kane'

      I would not argue as to Clinton
      being the best politician in his DECEPTION, and
      therefore support having the ability to garner the support
      of the American People. But, by the ability to have
      GOVERNED over his term, which is another measure of a
      politicians abilities, he has proven to be woefully lacking.


      Even with a House AND a Senate of the same stripe, he
      was dismally a failure of inacting any meaningful
      legislation in the first years of his term. Then, as he was
      so woefully inept in this catagory, coupled with his
      true "attitude", which started to be shown, he single
      handedly handed the House, and the Senate to the
      Republicans. This is not the mark of a "good", much less,
      GREAT" politician. Although, I complain not about this
      situation.

      The thing that saved his skin in '96 was the fact
      that the Republicans had legislative control over the
      government. Their enactments, coupled with the '80's supply
      side economics starting to be fully felt in the
      marketplace, coupled with the end of the diasterous bank
      bailouts, which drained the treasury to no end, etc., made
      the economy too good for the voters to see that it
      was his INACTIONS that was propelling the "good
      times", not anything he actually did. Is this a "Great
      Politician"? One who is "just there", rather than one that is
      "doing"?

      A "Great Politician" is one that "leads", not one
      that just "benefits" from the doings of others. This
      is Franklin Roosevelt(even though I disagree with
      his policies, he was a "great" politician). Or,
      Reagan, whom was able to get thru his policies, dispite a
      hostile congress. THAT is a "Great Politician".


      Degrees of "smartness", IQ, schools of attendance, etc.
      does not make a politician great. This IS possessed by
      BC, but does not make him great. In fact, it actually
      proves the opposite, as he had the God Given abilities,
      but did not utilize them.

      What he lacks is
      "common sense". This is what keeps him from being
      "great".

      Screw The Taxpayers,
      Buy Them Votes,
      (Demo
      Rally)
      lld

    • perhaps you haven't read my other clinton
      comments....not that they carry any more weight than any other
      grain of sand<g>.

      i am not a clinton fan
      and didn't vote for him either time.

      that
      said, pnzi was not a genius by any reasonable
      definition or he would have been more sophisticated in his
      dullard's scheme.

      and there is a difference between
      being diabolically clever with brute force as your
      backdrop and being a "superb politican"..which hitler was
      not.

      saying he was is tantamount to admiring meyer lansky's
      "business skills". it takes no business skills when you are
      willing to murder someone to get what u want.

      like
      him or not, clinton *is* the best politican since
      roosevelt...and maybe including roosevelt.

      that is not a
      statement of admiration.

      i hate politicans. all of
      them.

    • the_drunk_in_number_two the_drunk_in_number_two Nov 10, 2000 10:20 AM Flag

      "...the brightest man to hit the WH in a half
      century...and the best politician of our time."

      Ponzi
      was a genius too - and calling Clinton "the best
      politician of our time" is like naming Lizzie Borden the
      best ax murderer of her time.

      Benedict Arnold
      was a brilliant general.

      Hitler was a superb
      politician, too.

      One cannot disagree with anything
      you've said about Clinton in this message, but one can
      say, as the Germans do, "Ja, und..."

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