No, I was referring to the MAN engine. That's the European mid block that IH has been using. Have a customer with a few and he is not happy.
As far as the Detroit, I haven't heard terrible things about it, but I don't have too many operting in my part of the country. As far as the Cummins, yes, it has been operating favorably, much better than in 08 and 09 when it had its share of problems.