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  • webuchadnezzar_reva webuchadnezzar_reva Sep 19, 2011 10:07 AM Flag

    Fantasy headline: "GM TO MOVE HQ TO SOUTH CAROLINA IN 2013"

    That is the headline I want to see.

    Then open one or two plants at a time down there until the Michigan legislature gets the message and makes Michigan a Right to Work state to destroy the UAW's chokehold on this fine company.

    This would be good for GM and good for American manufacturing and GREAT for America.

    Can you even IMAGINE how many Americans would suddenly begin to support GM again, if the UAW were out of the picture? I don't think I would even consider anything else BUT a GM car if that happened!


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    • I'm sure if you ask Bob he'll know both that I named. Both have been there close to 40 years

    • Not that interested. See ya.

    • You are a credit to the UAW.

    • What?? Post again when you're sober.

    • Well, I'll tell you, none of your guys even show up when I google them. What do you mean by "high level"?? What were their titles??

      Maybe your skilled trades BIL or the fork truck driver BIL can tell you.

      Just the same, I think I'll rely on my guys.

    • <<
      Who's your source and I'll check him out.>>

      Mike Schneider in Engineering,retired but is back there working. Gary Birkmeier accounting, Gary I think went to Spain when they built a plant there. I think Gary is still working at Nexteer. I also have a nephew in Engineering won't mention his name. Two Brother-in-Laws that retired from there, one skill the other a Fork Truck Driver

    • This is what I was talking about:
      "I know when GM built a Steering Gear plant in Alabama they had all kinds of problems and the Plant Manager at the Alabama plant tried to cover them up."

      You also said, "I know salaried people at High Level at Saginaw Steering Gear, and now Nexteer"
      I also know some folks up there, i.e., Bob Remenar, Vince DeZorzi, and Mike Gannon. Who's your source and I'll check him out. We worked with these guys during the bankruptcy. Also, what was the Plant Managers name? Chances are I know him too.

    • <<These people are trailer trash that had a decent income for a while, while it lasted. Now they are back to being what they should have been all along. Blue collar lower class, not middle class like they though they were. >>

      Coming from a person that was to embarrassed to show his shack.

    • You are ignoring the fact that the Athens plant thrived from the mid 70's to the mid 90's. There were no training issues, in fact, I believe that many skilled and non skilled workers transferred there from the plant in Saginaw. THIS IS NOT A TRAINING ISSUE, THIS IS A COMPETITIVENESS ISSUE.

      Please read the above thoroughly. The plant ran successfully for many years. It was the unwillingness of the UAW leadership to recognize that they turned the plant into a loser that was its death knell. The same with manufacturing plants in Ypsilanti, Fredericksburg, Shreveport, Pontiac, Parma, Syracuse, Baltimore, Oklahoma City, Fremont, Kansas City (Leeds), St. Louis, Buffalo, Detroit, etc. How many of those plants were in the south.

      UAW wake up before it's too late for this country to recover.

    • Maybe Cobra is one of these people in this story.

      Faces, pain behind poverty figures: Millions of poorest Americans trapped, living in despair
      David Crary/ Associated Press
      At a food pantry in a Chicago suburb, a 38-year-old mother of two breaks into tears.

      She and her husband have been out of work for nearly two years. Their house and car are gone. So is their foothold in the middle class and, at times, their self-esteem.

      "It's like there is no way out," says Kris Fallon.

      She is trapped like so many others, destitute in the midst of America's abundance. Last week, the Census Bureau released new figures showing that nearly one in six Americans lives in poverty — a record 46.2 million people. The poverty rate, pegged at 15.1 percent, is the highest of any major industrialized nation, and many experts believe it could get worse before it abates.

      The numbers are daunting — but they also can seem abstract and numbing without names and faces.

      Associated Press reporters around the country went looking for the people behind the numbers. They were not hard to find.

      There's Bill Ricker, a 74-year-old former repairman and pastor whose home is a dilapidated trailer in rural Maine. He scrapes by with a monthly $1,003 Social Security check. His ex-wife also is hard up; he lets her live in the other end of his trailer.

      There's Brandi Wells, a single mom in West Virginia, struggling to find a job and care for her 10-month-old son.

      Some were outraged by the statistics. Marian Wright Edelman of the Children's Defense Fund called the surging child poverty rate "a national disgrace." Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., cited evidence that poverty shortens life spans, calling it "a death sentence for tens and tens of thousands of our people."

      Overall, though, the figures seemed to be greeted with resignation, and political leaders in Washington pressed ahead with efforts to cut federal spending. The Pew Research Center said its recent polling shows a majority of Americans — for the first time in 15 years of being surveyed on the question — oppose more government spending to help the poor.

      From The Detroit News:

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