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  • uaw_built uaw_built Dec 30, 2011 9:30 AM Flag

    UAW built products are the Best

    And supporting the UAW creates more jobs in America.

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    • <<<"I can't disagree, but I rarely "engage" this individual based on his handle. It's not the executives who are corrupt, it's the politicians and anybody who takes an econ class would fail it if they thought otherwise.">>>

      Briefly:

      The executives certainly aren't alone and all are not included but to say "It's not the executives who are corrupt..." is ludicrous.
      ------------------------------------------------

      <<<"...the Keystone Pipeline, Obama's opposition to fracking, Lisa Jackson and the EPA (they issued something the other day that initiated the process of closing down coal plants)...">>>

      Maybe because there is the chance corruption, by whomever, would be detrimental to the integrity of the pipeline.

      Has "fracking" been proven safe, to drinking water, etc, by non oil execs.

      You do realize that potable water will probably be the next major shortage. And water is much more important than oil.

      Coal plants spew Hg etc. and some pols want to loosen the regs on it.

      How does the middle class having more material wealth benefit them if their children are poisoned?

      You distrust pols (I don't object to that)but you worship at the altar of corporations? Really?

      Btw; I give you a 25%. A 30% markdown because of pique!

    • Hey Mal,

      Why don't you man up and admit you didn't know what you were posting about when you babbled:

      "Thank God these slugs don't work in the aerospace industry or food industry. We would all be dead."

      After all it wouldn't be your first time.

    • >>That's a major improvement over the norm.<<

      I can't disagree, but I rarely "engage" this individual based on his handle. It's not the executives who are corrupt, it's the politicians and anybody who takes an econ class would fail it if they thought otherwise.

      With respect to energy, is there anybody as dumb as Obama/Chu? There's a DOE report floating around the TSLA board (Kbodie found it) where Chu predicted 120,000 Volts in 2012. Can you believe that? This guy is supposed to be good. I could have told you that would not happen and I can't count to 10. What about Solyndra, the Keystone Pipeline, Obama's opposition to fracking, Lisa Jackson and the EPA (they issued something the other day that initiated the process of closing down coal plants)? Obama is just terrible for the middle class. Why force energy prices higher? How the H does that help the middle class?

    • "I told you that is the main reason I'm a Republican."
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      A UAW union slug Republican?
      How's that even possible?

      You present yourself as a loyal union member, defend UAW with every breath.UAW takes all your dues and hands then over to the Democratic party to get anyone but The Republicans elected to any office. How can you reconcile that?

      You either support your union or you don't. You can't be a union man and a Republican.

      You are conflicted.

    • "You got about 20% of it right"
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      That's a major improvement over the norm.

    • I told you that is the main reason I'm a Republican. Plus the fact that most of our media is liberal. Remember Carter he set up a Dept. with 16,000 employees to make us energy independent. Now it is has about 160,000 Federal employees. Kennedy may have been the only Democrat president that I voted for. I also votes for Ross Perot instead of George Older Bush his second term.

    • Hey Jeye, at least I'm doing something about oil prices by not punching the "D" chad when I vote, because the Ds are against fossil fuels. I also have a lower carbon footprint than the average American. Don't bash me. Maybe you should focus on those on this board who said once Obama was elected, "You lost, get over it."

      "Energy prices will necessarily skyrocket."

    • NEW YORK (AP) -- The price of oil soared in 2011 and will finish about 19 percent higher, on average, after a volatile year dominated by concerns about global supplies.

      And high oil and gasoline prices are expected to continue weighing on the economy as it struggles to grow in 2012.

      "It's like leaving the parking brake on while you're trying to drive the economy forward," said Michael Lynch, president of Strategic Energy & Economic Research.

    • Sales incentives, which cut into profit per vehicle, are thought to have fallen again in December, said Nesvold.

      Edmunds said it expects General Motors Co (NYSE:GM - News) to take 19 percent of the December U.S. market and increase sales by 5 percent from last year. Ford Motor Co (NYSE:F - News) is expected to show a sales gain of 8 percent and gather a 17 percent share of the U.S. market, Edmunds said.

      Toyota will be third with a 14 percent market share, Edmunds said, and will show a 3 percent sales drop from December 2010.

    • >>The gasoline that was exported was made from crude held in the US. That lowered the supply of crude in the US so we had to buy or produce more crude. Demand up, price up.<<

      You got about 20% of it right. The price at Cushing will go up based on your analysis, but the price of Brent will go down as US oil which has remained "landlocked" will flood the world market. My guess if you looked at the Brent spread (Brent vs. Cushing or WTI) you will find it has narrowed over the last 3 months as refined products from the US have been exported. I'm probably paying the same price for AK crude I use in my car despite the increase in refined product exports as AK tends to be priced off of Brent, not Cushing.

      The only way you can change the price of oil is to increase non-OPEC oil capacity. Shutting down fracking or denying the Keystone Pipeline are not in the interests of the middle class, yet Obama doesn't seem to care. Cheap energy gives America a comparative advantage, yet Obama doesn't want to exploit it. My point wasn't to argue the spread between WTI and Brent but rather the POTUS has an anti dirty energy policy. "We" voted him in and people like Jeye need to understand the consequences. I don't know how making energy more expensive is good for anyone. A better policy is making alternative energy cheaper or our energy consumption more efficient. If the axis of evil (Silverado, Tahoe, and Suburban) need to be put into the wood chipper via CAFE, so be it.

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