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  • greatday43 greatday43 Dec 27, 2012 10:07 AM Flag

    cobra fiction

    An issue with the 3rd member used in the first generation CTS-V is no secret. The current CTS-V uses a more robust 3rd member with upgraded axle shafts. The first generation CTS-V used only a manual transmission and when constantly mistreated, drag racing type starts, etc, the 3rd member failed. Constant mistreatment of any vehicle will ultimately and directly create problems of various types. Get over it.

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    • An issue with the 3rd member use no secret. The current robust 3rd member with upgraded shaft used manually and constantly mistreated, drag types , etc, the 3rd member failed. Constant mistreatment of any memeber ultimately create problems of various types. Get over it.

      Sentiment: Strong Sell

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      • cobrawolverine@sbcglobal.net cobrawolverine Dec 27, 2012 3:46 PM Flag

        'the 3rd member failed.'

        That's the whole point. Should have not failed if built properly. Sounds like a bunch of GM blind loyal folks without the money to buy this car and think it's OK for them to put it out like this.
        I say keep your nose where it belongs. Not your conversation.

      • "An issue with the 3rd member use no secret. The current robust 3rd member with upgraded shaft used manually and constantly mistreated, drag types , etc, the 3rd member failed. "

        This parroted GM defense makes no sense whatever. It was advertised to be a high-performance sports car. Yet admittedly, there was a severely underdesigned member in the drive train.

        And you GM apologist #$%$ think people who pay that kind of money for a car are gonna baby it like a Park Avenue? Give me a break.

        -web

        Sentiment: Strong Sell

    • cobrawolverine@sbcglobal.net cobrawolverine Dec 27, 2012 12:34 PM Flag

      ' The current CTS-V uses a more robust 3rd member with upgraded axle shafts'

      Hey, I'm over it. The guy asked a question. What's your problem with it? Seems like you need to get over it.

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      • I do not recall a GM recall for this problem. As memory serves, this aluminum housing 3rd member was used elsewhere aside from the early CTS-V. When Bob Lutz put together the Solstice and Sky roadster program he used this very same 3rd member because it was "off the shelf" and readily available. I do not recall all the particulars involved with the problems found with this 3rd member in the CTS-V first edition, obviously though, it was not robust enough for "high rpm drop clutch" starts and the rear suspension system could not cope and massive rear wheel hop also occurred.

        I understand the limitations of the FWD system used for my Grand Prix GXP with the 5.3 all aluminum V8 and 4 speed HD transmission - and I avoid driving in such a way as to create the torque steer involved. Even with Michelin Pilot Super Sport 265/45-18 tires, it easily spins the front wheels even with the traction control always turned on. I know this as I've owned my GXP now nearly 6 years - and I might add - without ANY significant problems. An alternator and a battery are not, in my book, significant particularly when those repairs were done under warranty.

        Certainly, I could turn off the traction control and have a fine time lighting up those $350 front tires. There's nothing to prove to anyone - as I know the capabilities/limitations of my GXP.

        During development of the current CTS-V, these issues were addressed and I'm not aware of further problems. Any high performance model can be mistreated/many are as we know and parts will break. Further I'm not aware of issues with the 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP which uses basically the same RWD layout with the 6.2 V8 with either the 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic. Finding one of these very rare Pontiac models for sale is a challenge.

        Discuss.

    • (((An issue with the 3rd member used in the first generation CTS-V is no secret.)))

      Obviously not. So Cobra was apparently right again, and these other GM defending idiots need to #$%$ and just admit it.

      -web

      Sentiment: Strong Sell

 
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