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  • john_kimes john_kimes Jul 22, 2013 8:12 PM Flag

    Why I am shorting TSLA....waking a giant

    Elon Musk has the attention of Dan Akermam. GM has formed a task force to study TESLA. Read the article on the TSLA page about GM being threatened by TESLA. Just like I said, if Tesla succeeds, a company with much more engineering talent, know how, and resources will arise and crush them. If you discontinue one model to put your resources on a new one, just how long can that business model last? It will be interesting to watch. Regardless....EVs win.

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    • Did it ever occur to you that the reason the Model S is a success is because GM, Ford, Mitsubishi, Fisker, and Nissan DID NOT have as much engineering talent?
      And if this Akerson task force learns anything, it will be how to COPY--- not innovate.
      While GM copies the released model (without infringing on the Tesla's patents), they will still have to compete within the next model. REMEMBER the VOLT was started in 2007, and released in 2010. Its is now 2013, and is STILL based on the original design --hardly a nimble company.
      You should sit in all the EV cars in the market (ok a few are hybrids pretending to be EV) and ask yourself the honest question of WHY.

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      • The engineering in the Volt far exceeds anything Tesla has. Blending 2 powertrains seamlessly, battery management systems, over 100 MPUs, millions of lines of code...you don't know what you are talking about lebu....it's a pattern I recognize in your post. GM has more patents, more innovation, more resources...the amount of cars made by GM in an hour is what TESLA does in a year...give me a break

      • They have the engineering talent. But they have way more bean-counters who cull out good engineering in the name of business planning, cost-basis, etc. Just like a company with too many middle managers limit the output of excellent understaffers. Musk just said "make it work".

    • I don't think there's much question that Tesla is overpriced, but I'd still be leery of shorting it. With all the positive press the car and the company get, and the current relatively low sales levels, I don't see any great disappointment in the near term that would trigger a selloff. Besides, I'm just more comfortable investing in something I think I understand and believe in vs. betting against Tesla, or any other company, for that matter!

      Sentiment: Buy

    • Hi John,

      You are betting the battle's outcome on the side with more resources.

      I am betting on the side with a better general. Elon Musk runs rings around almost any other CEOs today. I like Akerson, as you know.

      But we have Tony Stark.


      Sentiment: Strong Sell

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