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  • hookfree2000 hookfree2000 Sep 11, 2003 12:20 AM Flag


    Nice personal attack Jetpilot. I type fast. Yes, I meant oblivious. I will now go read the rest of your post and see if I can learn anything.

    I have found in social experiences, those that get personal during debates usually have little substance to their position.

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    • No personal attack intended.

      When I read your first sentence, I read it as"Your OBVIOUS mindset and FINGER pointing,,,,,"

      I then went back and saw it was really oblivious and figure pointing, so we will continue.

      What am I oblivious of?
      The need for a business to take in more money than it pays out?
      Am I oblivious of the tremendous advantage AWA managers have had for twenty years by having employee costs lower than their competition and not being able to capitalize on it?
      Am I oblivious to the fact that high turnover leads to increased cost for recruiting, testing and training?
      Am I oblivious to the fact that low pay leads to low employee morale, and things like high turnover,increased absenteeism,theft,vandalism and poor customer service?(These are all things you can read about in your investment library.)
      Am I oblivious to the state of the industry or the economy?

      Lets go to the income side.

      Am I oblivious to the fact that AWA has never been able to garner anything close to industry RASM?
      Am I oblivious to the fact that it takes high quality service to get people to pay profitable fares.How about frequency, and comfort and making a passenger feel welcome instead of a piece of meat?
      Am I oblivious to the fact that the higher paying business travelers know the value of a dollar, and will only spend it when they can be guaranteed high quality service.This is why we have Yugo's and BMW's for sale.A customer pays more for a BMW because he or she expects more.

      I am a terrible typist. My numerous errors are not because of blazing speed, but poor skills.Communication is a two way event, and I just wanted to know what you meant.

    • I think "your oblivious mindset" qualifies as an Ad Hominem attack. Does it therefore follow that your position has little substance?

      That settled, let the debate continue...


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